Hilarious R'lyeh Dreamlands moment (SPOILER)

[Taqwus]

Hrrrrrrrm.

Does the existence of an insane self-proclaimed prophet affect your ability to manually designate a prophet?

Weirder question: how about if you manually designate prophets among the insane? IOW, is there a difference between a manually-selected insane prophet and an self-proclaimed insane prophet?

[JaydedOne]

Excellent questions. I'll have to do some investigating to find out as, obviously, that wasn't the case in my experiment. I love all things R'lyeh, however, so I imagine I'll get the opportunity to find out sooner than later.

I'll need to load up my file once I get home to see if the self-proclaimed prophet got priest levels. I think he might have, although it may have only been one. I can't recall. He did, however, most certainly have the prophet icon. And, as the O's have verified, the fact that it isn't a bug (as I suspected) only contributes to the awesomeness that is R'lyeh.

IA!

[B0rsuk]

Wait, you can still make your _pretender_ insane, right ? Is this possible without R'lyeh Void Gate ? Is there a guaranteed way to make your pretender insane ? Gimme gimme !

[Taqwus]

I know I'm going to be experimenting with insanity when my order arrives.

So far we know that the insane can spend time dreaming, calling gods, entering magic sites (the Void Gate), and becoming prophets. I haven't seen any references to anything costing gems, involving troops, or movement yet, but...


Well now, what happened is, one of our base commanders, he had a sort of, well, he went a little funny in the head. You know. Just a little... funny. And uh, he went and did a silly thing. Well, I'll tell you what he did, he ordered his planes... to attack your country. Well let me finish, Dmitri. Let me finish, Dmitri.

Well, listen, how do you think I feel about it? Can you imagine how I feel about it, Dmitri?


From one of the funniest conversations in cinema, from one of the finest movies ever made, IMHO.

[JaydedOne]

Well, in terms of costing gems, troops, movements, etc., the commanders function pretty much as expected in that they're normal commanders who just sometimes decide to ignore your orders. They can gather up troops spawned by the Dominion effect and shuffle them around quite nicely. You just have to be prepared for them to potentially misbehave while helming such troops. While I haven't seen it myself, I'd think twice before entrusting my insane hybrid cultist with 50 or so mad deep ones in my capital or another significant province. After all, what if they randomize to pillage or decide to step next door into a vast enemy force?

But, given that they can develop priest and Astral 1 abilities as they gain more insanity, these guys -can- cast spells, forge magic items, etc.

There's an insanity score, btw. It generally starts low (many of my mad cultists start off at 7) but it goes up as time progresses (I've seen it at 50). Also, your normal commanders can go insane in time within your dominion as well, as some of my enslaved Atlantean magi began to wig out and do unscripted orders as well. I have no idea as to whether this can happen to your Pretender as my Void Lurker was happily Imprisoned throughout my entire playthrough -- which may be a strategic element to consider as well for R-Dreamlands, as you gain massive scales/Dominion plusses for Imprisonment while getting the side benefit of not scoring Insanity in the early game, assuming it applies to your Pretender...

[JaydedOne]

Dig the Strangelove quote, btw.

[Nerfix]

And it's soooo fitting. Stars being right, sleeping etc. So lovecraftian...

Messenger of Fear in sight
Dark deception kills the light

Hybrid children watch the sea
Pray for Father, roaming free

fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
great Old One
forbidden site
He searches
Hunter of the Shadows is rising

immortal
in madness You dwell

Crawling Chaos, underground
cult has summoned, twisted sound

Out from ruins once possessed
fallen city, living death

fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
Timeless sleep
Has been upset
He awakens
Hunter of the Shadows is rising

immortal
in madness You dwell

Not dead which eternal lie
stranger eons Death may die
drain you of your sanity
face The Thing That Should Not Be

fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
great Old One
forbidden site
He searches
Hunter of the Shadows is rising

>:3

[JaydedOne]

*grin* I miss the old Cliff Burton Metallica that would reference Lovecraft every album.

[Nerfix]

JaydedOne said:
*grin* I miss the old Cliff Burton Metallica that would reference Lovecraft every album.

I quite like old Metallica too, not because only of the Lovecraft references but because it sounds good. But I also like the newer Metallica too. And a lot of other music.

Speaking of Metallica, music and Dominions...a finnish band called Apocalyptica is worth checking out. Lots of Metallica covers...played with...cellos! It's wonderful stuff, one of my favorite bands. Their version of Nothing Else Matter is the most beatiful song I've ever heard.

And their own songs fit Dominions...heck, they even have a song called Harmageddon.

[JaydedOne]

I prefer older Metallica, but that's just a preference. I liked the epic, thrashy, 8-minute long compositions and prefer them to the more conventional structures they started using as of the Black album.

And I'm familiar with Apocalyptica. IIRC, they even did a soundtrack or two. Maybe a Neil LaBute film. But yes, that version of Nothing Else Matters rules.