Good late game SCs? - Page 4

K · #31 December 5th, 2007, 12:19 AM

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Via stupidity mostly. I had to empower in one air, air helmet him then cloud trapeze because I was unaware of his limitations. Worked in SP. Probably not the best choice, but it worked. Took several provinces all alone before getting red hearts.

I don't understand this at all. I summoned a treelord just now in an SP game just to see what they were like. They only have 2 misc slots, and their branches are 15 point attacks - hardly anything special. On top of that it's nature magic, which is hardly that offensive. So what do I do with a treelord besides give him a magic carpet and use him to summon defenses and creatures all over?

-Jeff

Treelords, as far as I can tell, have one purpose.

You cast Transformation to turn them into non-unique moose, and then run around with Nature 4 moose-mages. Resummon, and repeat.

vfb · #32 December 5th, 2007, 02:09 AM

You can use them to cast Nature globals, then when someone comes looking to kill whoever cast the global, they can pretend they are just an ordinary tree.

RamsHead · #33 December 5th, 2007, 03:55 AM

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To derail..

How does one make an effective Dragon SC pretender?!

I have been messing around a fair bit and all I can seem to produce is something which has a 50% chance of taking a weak (militia, hvy infantry, archer) province and almost always picks up 1-3 afflictions the next time they try it and then are done until I have chalice or etc etc.

I know I am just sucking somehow as I see you folks speak of them as being great for province clearing and early expansion but I just cant seem to do it!

Here is what I usually try..

I take a dormant dragon, usually fire, and give them more fire, at least 3 water (quickness) and I have been trying earth, nature, and astral of 3 min also. The 3 value is to enable the dragon to still be able to cast spell in that magical area when in dragon form. I am decking them out in whatever helmet I may be able to afford, usually horror or the nature/gore attack one, a luck misc and a regen misc or reinvigor or things like that. I usually play with an indy level of 9-8 but I have this trouble on 6 too so..

Any clues?

I know vfb gave some advice already, but so will I. If I am using a red or blue dragon, I set usually set him in the center and far back. I give him fire*5 then attack closest orders. He will walk into range and spit out some flames/frost, and then, if the troops are not already on him, he will fly the short distance and attack. I have consistently taken indies doing this without awe and rarely getting afflictions. Obviously certain indies should be avoided, but your general ones can be taken down without much effort.

Shovah32 · #34 December 5th, 2007, 05:21 AM

*Deleted for stupidity*

mathusalem · #35 December 5th, 2007, 06:12 AM

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vfb said:
You can use them to cast Nature globals, then when someone comes looking to kill whoever cast the global, they can pretend they are just an ordinary tree.

LOL

Shovah32 · #36 December 5th, 2007, 12:51 PM

An ordinary tree with a face?

Tichy · #37 December 5th, 2007, 12:53 PM

As long as he doesn't sneeze, he's fine.

Humakty · #38 December 5th, 2007, 01:01 PM

I just can't imagine a moose transformed treelord running all other the place, casting ToM on every missile/spell caster he stumbles upon....

DigitalSin · #39 December 5th, 2007, 07:36 PM

Hooray for non-unique meese!!

Meglobob · #40 December 5th, 2007, 07:51 PM

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K said:

Treelords, as far as I can tell, have one purpose.

You cast Transformation to turn them into non-unique moose, and then run around with Nature 4 moose-mages. Resummon, and repeat.

Wow! I really after try this! I always wondered what they were for...

Tips hat to K's brilliance.