Making something out of nothing (Can you turn this into a Thug?)

[Festin]

What about Abyssian Demonbreeds? Both EA and MA are interesting, but mainly the mage version. Is it possible to make a cost-effective thug out of this one?

[Diabl0658]

I found an indi site with that allowed me to recruit gnomes.

I gave them a black heart and a bloodstone each and just dropped them in my opponents capital and had them summon earth elementals during the assassination attempts.

On a related note, astral 9 blesses are the best assassin blesses. No more frozen heart first turn deaths!

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Diabl0658

On a related note, astral 9 blesses are the best assassin blesses. No more frozen heart first turn deaths!

This is only true if you also gave every assassin a shroud.

[Foodstamp]

Originally Posted by Diabl0658

I found an indi site with that allowed me to recruit gnomes.

I gave them a black heart and a bloodstone each and just dropped them in my opponents capital and had them summon earth elementals during the assassination attempts.

On a related note, astral 9 blesses are the best assassin blesses. No more frozen heart first turn deaths!

That sounds pretty nasty. Is the bless for sacreds you gave the black heart to or actual blessable assassins? If it is the latter, which ones?

[Olive]

And what would you give Skrattis ? I'm actually playing Utgard (sp game) and don't know what would suit them well. I mean, they're obvious thugs, but it's so tempting to give them full equipment. If it's possible to boost them with only a few gems...

Shroud of the Battle Saint seems OK, even with minor blesses (Actually I've a F4A4W4E4S6N4 bless). A pendant of luck too.

Otherwise, I miss ideas of for cheap and efficient items.

Boots of the messenger if no reinvigoration bless ?
If no interesting bless, a robe of shadows ? (but it's 10 pearls and 0 protection).
Frost brand ? But the cold protection will be useless, maybe an enchanted sword to boost att/def.

Shield : I guess a raw hide shield or the cheap astral shield will do the job. Or a lucky coin, it spares the pendant of luck.

That would be 20 N/S gems without forge bonus.

Any better ideas ? With a preference for Utgard's national paths ( S N D W B )

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Olive

And what would you give Skrattis ? I'm actually playing Utgard (sp game) and don't know what would suit them well. I mean, they're obvious thugs, but it's so tempting to give them full equipment. If it's possible to boost them with only a few gems...

Shroud of the Battle Saint seems OK, even with minor blesses (Actually I've a F4A4W4E4S6N4 bless). A pendant of luck too.

Otherwise, I miss ideas of for cheap and efficient items.

Boots of the messenger if no reinvigoration bless ?
If no interesting bless, a robe of shadows ? (but it's 10 pearls and 0 protection).
Frost brand ? But the cold protection will be useless, maybe an enchanted sword to boost att/def.

Shield : I guess a raw hide shield or the cheap astral shield will do the job. Or a lucky coin, it spares the pendant of luck.

That would be 20 N/S gems without forge bonus.

Any better ideas ? With a preference for Utgard's national paths ( S N D W B )

Take a look at baalz's guide. But I am way in favor of dual wielding blood thorns, and probably AMR.

[Olive]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Take a look at baalz's guide. But I am way in favor of dual wielding blood thorns, and probably AMR.

Great, thanks. Didn't thought of the Axe, seems like good stuff.

[Gregstrom]

Does anyone bar Aby get sacred recruitable assassins?

Edit: C'tis maybe?

[Olive]

Originally Posted by Gregstrom

Edit: C'tis maybe?

Empoisoners aren't sacred, but have D1N1. Shrouds of the Battle Saint can be easily forged by Shamans.

[Sombre]

Hang on hang on. You can't start talking about skrattis in this thread. You could talk about Jotun scouts maybe. Or shuten doji. Or cavemen chiefs.