Global War (upgraded to 3.20)

[CUnknown]

QM, what is your opinion? The 3 Neutral votes are the ones who really matter. I say we let them decide it. I'll keep playing if people want, but I'm happy to end it as well.

Pangea says:"Keep going."
Ryleh says: "Let's end it."
Shinuyama, what is your opinion? You have the deciding vote among the Neutrals it looks like.

If we end it, the Neutrals would win as a group, I think. It's hard to pick which Neutral has a bigger edge at this point, without looking at your positions.

[DonCorazon]

How close are we goods to killing Abysia (TNN's scouts have all been wiped out over the years)? That's all we have left right? Why don't we just kamikazee him and see if we can rid the world of evil once and for all. If the neutrals want to stand by and turtle that's fine with me. I just want to see some action in this game, or retire.

[archaeolept]

we're a long long way from conquering abysia. if the neutrals weren't to interfere, over 20 turns i would think... he's still more powerful than I am, for sure, and it would take a long time to reduce his castles.

Victory conditions are not met, so there are no winners. I think the game does show that there are issues with the victory conditions as exist.

[quantum_mechani]

Originally Posted by CUnknown

QM, what is your opinion? The 3 Neutral votes are the ones who really matter. I say we let them decide it. I'll keep playing if people want, but I'm happy to end it as well.

Pangea says:"Keep going."
Ryleh says: "Let's end it."
Shinuyama, what is your opinion? You have the deciding vote among the Neutrals it looks like.

If we end it, the Neutrals would win as a group, I think. It's hard to pick which Neutral has a bigger edge at this point, without looking at your positions.

I suppose my vote is to continue, but I'll qualify that. I think you have a good idea of letting somebody impartial look at the positions and see if it looks like there is any overwhelming edge.

[Zeldor]

Huh, good to see that Pythium survived

Too bad my plan for good team really didn't get approved.

CUnknown:

Nah, I think there were many many flaws in rules and game design. Idea was good, but some mistakes were made, including:
- water nation
- newbies allowed
- bad map
- bad win conditions
- no encouragement to attack neutrals or for neutrals to get fighting [until the end, where they have to stop good or evil from winning]
- hosting was not great, next one should be on llamaserver

[quantum_mechani]

So, opinions people? Anyone have objections to having a neutral observer look at the turns?

[Kheldron]

No problem but any observer is in for a heck of a search through all provinces, leaders, equipment and all...ouch!
Who do you hate so much?

[archaeolept]

in terms of power it goes like this: shinu, r'lyeh, pan, aby, ulm or pyth, eriu, arcos.

Shinu has done the best of the neutrals, Aby of Evil, Ulm of Good (as pyth's power is in large part due to Ulm).

They're experimental victory conditions in an experimental game. Don't obsess. Either play it out, or say it was fun and end it - and critique the format in order to better prepare any eventual successor.

If R'lyeh and Pan join up, they might have a chance against Shinuyama; esp. if they can get some outside support.

[DonCorazon]

I vote for Shin, or I'll keep playing and TNN will launch all remaining forces for our final ride against the BURNINATOR. Pet Shop Boys will be heard in the magma pits of Abyssia...

[Kheldron]

Ok then QM had the lead for most of the game anyway. If Indy doesnt want to continue and he would be needed just to have a chance...well, hands down

I must also bow to Baalz who single handedly hold off the hoards from heavens for so long. That's a lesson in resilience. I learnt a lot just by watching the fights