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April 11th, 2021, 07:13 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
The previous to the below, I based that on the search parameters for the first two types, which is why I ended that post with the following...
"I will conduct the a " deeper" search of those other 2 UNITS, later, but you'll excuse me if I don't renter my refs again."
Which means I'm keeping an " open mind" to all possibilities.
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April 11th, 2021, 09:28 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Alright, UNIT 800 MT-LBM (6M) is good. My first ref. lists a whole Sxxt -ton of variants with one to check the MT-LBVM which mounted a turreted 12.7mm NSVT HMG. It was a further upgrade to the MT-LBV that had wider tracks mounted, ref 1 claims 565mm wider tracks.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/armo...sp?armor_id=17
https://www.defencetalk.com/military...lbm-6mb.44879/
(Was assigned to the MT-LBM 6MB 34th Mountain Motor-Rifles Brigade)
Notice slight variation in designation for this unit. We get this a lot out here at times, which can be vexing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBG7qWa1xeM
(Apparently posted just yesterday!)
Seen plenty of pictures and other refs I found independently, which is how I work, If there's others, it supports what has already been presented.
Insight: a MAJOR part of responsibilities @ CSG-10 OPCON was to ensure that no operational message concerning our boats or when " exercised" any boats in the big eastern ocean had errors in them, before being released to the recipients by those above me. Only one way that can be accomplished and I used that word above. Any unexpected "bump in the night" several hundred feet underwater is never a good thing. People can die.
A little something I've held onto from the last time there were questions about Subs. Before you read the first one, we did I the 4 boats I was on, we had the common decency to at least wait a couple of days on one point of discussion and it happened on a more " individual basis" if you will. The rest is pretty much "spot on" and you never pulled open someone's bunk curtain. Your "bunk" is sacra cent and the berthing area was a "holy place". We slept but, listened for the unusual noises and alarms at the same time. And yes we rested.
https://taskandpurpose.com/mandatory...ells-like-sht/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/submarinebubblehead/
(In full disclosure, I'm not a member. Click on "Read More", Do I agree with it, well some of you will already know the answer to that.)
A little "on edge" maybe due some anxiety CINCLANTHOME was having earlier today-tomorrow is shot day for you know what. I'm waiting on the J&J myself since we got a plane to catch this summer for the GD's H.S. Graduation in whatever form that'll take.
That leaves one more I think and it can wait until, maybe tomorrow.
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April 11th, 2021, 11:35 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Bubbleheads are a unique group.
And as a group they're some of the most reliable people you'll ever meet. They do any task they're given fast and right. Attention to detail quite literally is a life and death matter for them.
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April 12th, 2021, 03:27 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Just a thought backed up by Pats "(Was assigned to the MT-LBM 6MB 34th Mountain Motor-Rifles Brigade)" & "MT-LBV that had wider tracks mounted, ref 1 claims 565mm wider tracks."
What is the terrain like where the fighting is taking place I seem to remember they have very low ground pressure so if its rough going that's another confirmation that they are MT's
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April 12th, 2021, 02:37 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
John,
Here's the Photo Album starting with a great shot of the MT-LBM 6A
to start it off. than MT-LB followed by the MT-VBM, scroll to the comments section for the picture description..
Looking at the terrain at their driving facility for 34th Mountain, the steppes of Russia, UKRAINE and or POLAND with their lakes and swamps of Eastern, Northern (On the Russian "extension" border.) and pretty much all of Western Poland " the gateway" to Germany. It's an AMPHIP as well and wider tracks in those types of terrain as you know, would be nothing but a huge advantage for a vehicle of it's size. The pictures certainly demonstrate that clearly to my mind.
https://www.defencetalk.com/military...-lbm-6m.47299/
CINCLANTHOME is fine, no reaction, just a sore arm which like most anti virus shots, go into the muscle.
Suhiir, thank you for the kind words as your career to some extent would've given you some insight to my world.
Some people can't get beyond the " why would you want to do that", my answer simply is because at the start of WWII, that's all we had to take the fight to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor.
I'm definitely a student of history.
https://www.defense.gov/Explore/Feat...ar-ii-victory/
OK! The Submarine Hazardous Duty pay was pretty good too!!
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May 12th, 2021, 01:05 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Anyone else think the new "overwatch" (a beefed up Striker) seems like too little too late for the British army (in service 2030!?!) ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ4eNDNY1Zc
Shouldn't it be on a boxer hull and isn't Spike NLOS / "Exactor" a better bet?
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June 2nd, 2021, 12:41 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Australia LAND 400 UPDATE:
STATUS: Still in coordinated Manufacturers Trials w/Army.
Australian Army receives first 25 LANCER BOXER's. DON'T GET TOO EXCITED.
QOUTE: "Delivery of the first 25 vehicles enables Army to continue towards Initial Operating Capability on schedule as Rheinmetall moves into the next phase of the LAND 400 Phase 2 program."
If the HAWKIE Program is an indication on how the evaluation process will go, we're looking at 2-3 years for FOC earliest.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._vehicles.html
Gotta Go!!
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June 5th, 2021, 01:34 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Well another update I saw coming but, wish it wouldn't have happened to a program that's ALREADY 4 YEARS BEHIND schedule. I speak of AJAX and quite frankly this is nothing less than embarrassing especially in blaming France for the UK problems with their CITW 40mm when it was the UK that deviated from the loading system design. That I posted on earlier this year in this thread and now again this issue has popped up...
https://www.army-technology.com/news...-safety-risks/
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/m...x-b938510.html
IOC in 2021 well in my opinion, good luck with that!?!
I've got a beautiful bridge in NYC I'm selling called the " Brooklyn Bridge" for anyone interested!?!
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June 5th, 2021, 04:26 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
British procurement "strategy" in the last few decades has been utterly and totally abysmal. You would think it was a script from "Yes Minister" but unfortunately it is actuality, not a comedy show. Oh - perhaps it is meant to be a comedy show! 
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June 5th, 2021, 08:21 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Not being able to go faster than 20MPH is a problem as is not being able to back up over an 8 inch "obstacle"
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