Another Newbie Slugfest - Restarted

[PashaDawg]

So, what's the poop? Is this game still going?

[Boron]

PashaDawg said:
So, what's the poop? Is this game still going?

No sign of life from Grim since over a week .

[PashaDawg]

Wow. I hope everything is ok with him.

[Boron]

PashaDawg said:
Wow. I hope everything is ok with him.

Yeah i hope it is only his ISP and nothing more severe .

[The Panther]

My guess is that he is tired of Dominions. I admit that I am too, having been far too busy lately. I have staled in every game over the weekend that I am currently participating in right now. The only reason I have not staled in Slug Fest is because the game has crashed.

Grim has not been doing much in Slug Fest anyway for weeks now, just letting me overrun his PD without any resistance.

[Boron]

I think the game is dead now .

How many clams etc. did you have Panther ?
I had about 250 clams and 200 fetishes , now i was forging about 20-25 new clams and 5-7 fetishes every turn .
I was doing since about 10 turns 5 tartarians per turn also and planning to increase it now to 7-8 .

I had everything researched expect thaumaturgy and blood which i would have started now .
As soon as i would have gotten Astral Tartarians i would have made them Wishcasters and wished for blood .
In about 10-15 turns i would have tried to eliminate you if you wouldn't have achieved victory conditions by then already .

I also got 1 AQ and i guess that a 2nd would have been around unsummoned also . I would have probably wished 1 further AQ every turn also or Ettin mandragoras instead .

For defense i planned on casting a strong 500+ nature gem haunted forest + buy 125 pd everywhere .
My first wish would have been the alchemist pretender . I also owned the alchemist stone so i would have gotten 45 gold per firegem and with 200 fire gems converted each turn i would have been able to do my 125 pd defence and i would have used 1 less useful Tartarian with a staff of storms as additional patroller in my more important provinces also .

I was looking really forward to this endgame because i was curious if you would maybe achieve victory conditions before i started to attack you and if my battleplans which i had for my attacks would have been successful or if you would have been able to counter them .

I was very surprised that if i wouldn't have used 70 mages for monthly forging + summoning i could have probably researched everything at turn 65 already despite very hard research and that Machaka was not bad with hoarding at all .
I found 2 sage , 1 loremaster province , 1 hydromancer province and a jade sorceress province though . And the 30% enchantment bonus province which was very handy for my GoH + dispelling .

[Aku]

I had about 100-120 clams and 30-40 fetishes. I was getting like 5-8 clams and 1-3 fetishes a turn.

The game ended on the turn I got wish researched =(. My sea defense was unstoppable and was working on land offense. In my provinces I had about 30 abominations, over 300 mech men, lots of mages ready to teleport to any provinces, the 3 water queens, and some fodder troops. I had every province castled, templed, and labbed(labs for teleports and gateways to any province for instant response time). That is why my water provinces were completely defensible because I could call upon troops from every province I owned. I also kept my dominion positive by having priests preaching in each province. I sometimes had to have 6 priests in a province preaching to keep my dominion positive in the heavily templed borders. I had 4 casters dedicated to summoning abominations each turn. I had every province achaisic so my natural gem income was good.

My land campaign was going to include suicide solar brilliance casters to destroy the demon and undead armies. They would have staff of storms also and ritual of returning so hopefully they would return home safely. They would attack any major army of demon/undead with the astral spell that lets you teleport even to enemy provinces. This strat would of worked on ctis very well also since he kept his tomb wyrm armies in huge clusters and all I would need to do is wait for him to siege a castle or go in an uncastled province.

My main army was going to include a master enslave caster to take all of panthers vampires and use them in my army. The master enslave caster was going to have penetration gear and empowered up his astral to at least 10 naturally plus astral + items plus communion slaves from the star children. I hoped to have enslaved massive amounts of vampires and sc's(to be gored) which would of been added to my massive mech men and abomination army. Also I would of had at least 20 mages with quickness spamming enslave mind, and i had several astral fire casters(i like that spell, and it says it penetrates fire immune creatures which i wanted to test). Basically the theme was to have a massive enslave army taking over all my enemies armies and all my mages would of been fire and lightning immune from items, and staff of storms equipped in the army also to mess up flying. With lightning immunity even if storm demons came the only thing they could harm would be the abominations which have massive hp. Well that was the idea for my army but too bad this game is no more.

[Boron]

I planned to do a main army with lots of devils buffed with mistform , mass regeneration , storm warriors , weapons of sharpness , army of lead or gold , giant strength , maybe also rush of strength .

Then the tartarians would have done 1-2 Rain of Stones also to kill enemy national mages .

After the buffs the tartarians would have been able to do nice anti sc stuff like petrify , charm etc. .


A second army would have been mech men + AQs + storm + wrathful skies + all petrify casters i can spare .

and then lots of ghost riders and thugs like devils to take over weakly defended provinces quickly .

Tartarians are really handy i got lots and lots of good earth mage tartarians which provide very very good spells : Buffs :Legions of steel , Weapons of Sharpness , Strength of giants
Damage spells : Earthquake + Rain of stones
Anti Sc : Petrify

I also had all the major Unique items like Magebane , Summit , Aegis , Barrier , Alchemist stone etc. .


Would have surely been an interesting endfight first me + Aku vs. panther probably to stop him from winning undeserved with the stupid 145 province rule and then between me and Aku for the winner of the game

[The Panther]

Boron said:
Would have surely been an interesting endfight first me + Aku vs. panther probably to stop him from winning undeserved with the stupid 145 province rule and then between me and Aku for the winner of the game

This has to be the MOST idiotic statement I have ever read on this forum. Requiring 145 provinces is FAR too harsh on this size map. I guess this is one reason among many why I am done with Dominions for now. Just the outside chance that I might not win the game with half the provinces owned tells me that the game is totally busted for sure in the end game. I will certainly never play another game on a large map without a decent victory condition, like 40-45% provinces or less than half the VPs or perhaps 7 of 17 capitols.

By the way, if anyone want to permanently sub for me in any of my other games, please PM me:
1. I am Atlantis in one game, and in either first or second place (provinces) on about turn 60. I like this game because they are using the mods which prevent the silly hoarding thing.
2. I am Machaka in another game and in first (I think) in provices owned. About turn 30. Also using the balance mods.
3. My C'tis game has reached a stalemate on turn 133 and I am quitting that one, having now staled 2 consecutive turns. I also think my main enemy is viewing my turn files using the master password. Either that or he is damn lucky picking off the empowered mages with good artifacts in the back of my territory.

With my ongoing divorce and my recent move into an apartment plus changing jobs, I simply do not have the time to make a couple of Dominions turns per day anymore.

I throughly enjoyed Slug Fest up to the current time and am very glad it did not go to the endgame, for that still needs a lot of work to make it viable.

But for now, it is over and out for The Panther on Dominions.

Laterz...

[Boron]

I will ignore your namecalling Panther and try to convince you that your statement is not well thought :

You picked one of the classical rusher nations , abysia . It is best suited for midgame . You could have won if you would have been luckier but now that you didn't do it and didn't change your strats to lategame you would very likely have lost .

That are only your own faults though and not the game is to blame . This is imo the nicest thing about dominions that it is not that simple that the player who owns most land is most likely the player who will win .
You made just the classical fault of expanding to fast and so drawing everybodies attention on you . Then all your neighbors attacked you but you weren't really prepared and got stopped in long and bloody wars .
With the very very unfair 145 Province victory condition you still had the undeserved chance to win though .
Me and Aku just decided to do the economic growth strat and endgame domination . I was lucky that i wasn't attacked but i could also have been rushed by marignon or arco earlygame so your statement is not true .

You fail to see the great deepness of dominions imo by ignoring lategame completely . Ok to each his own .
But that you try to influence other players against me and aku in games where you don't even participate is unmature behaviour . Why did you do your anti-hoard posts in the teamgame at all ?

You are behaving like Cohen when he made his Abysia mod . Whining and whining and whining about the stupid no-brainer lategame and clams . If it is so stupid why have you never won a lategame ?