APC Development and related topics.

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Originally Posted by blazejos

BMO-T heavy APC transporter build on T-72 chassis for units of RPO-A "Shmel" Russia build only 10 of them and now some were lost during "Special military operation"

What these are in MBT are ammo carriers

Their main purpose is to carry 32 RPO-series one shot flame-throwers for use by the 7 Chemical troops they carry and there is a good chance only half of them are still in use.

I will add this into the SHP files for use by scenario designers to swap with an existing ammo carrier




But IMHO it's not worth using one of the few slots left in that OOB for

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What we have now in the Japanese OOB is the Type 19 that was entered in 2018

http://www.military-today.com/apc/ne...se_8x8_apc.htm

Still digging to see what the Patria will be named. The "good news" is all these type APC's look alike and that's why it already uses a Patia based Icon and has the same armor ratings as the Patria

If they follow past conventions guessing it will be a Type 04..... Maybe Type 22.... maybe

In any event, it is 50/50 whether one will be issued before the end of 2025

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German DPA news article translated:

I see I may need to make "adjustments" to the OOB......

It's the "affect vehicles in a special configuration" bit that is "interesting" as well as "turret defects" comment but especially.........."was only declared combat-ready last year"

The Bundeswehr started an exercise with 18 Puma infantry fighting vehicles, but after a few days none were operational. A letter is now causing a stir.

The Bundeswehr encountered serious technical problems during exercises with Puma infantry fighting vehicles for NATO‘s "spearhead" . During training with 18 combat vehicles, operational readiness dropped to zero within a few days, the “Spiegel” reported on Saturday. The magazine referred to a letter from the commander of the 10th Panzer Division, Major General Ruprecht von Butler, to the army leadership and the Ministry of Defence.

According to information from the German Press Agency, the maneuver took place at the armored force's target practice center and the letter has caused a stir in the Ministry of Defense since Friday. Because the new breakdowns affect vehicles in a special configuration, with which the Buttlar subordinate Panzergrenadierbrigade 37 is supposed to participate in the VJTV (Very High Readiness Joint Task Force) of the alliance from the new year. After reading the letter, the "Spiegel" reported a total failure. The last two "Pumas" that were still ready for action "on yesterday's shooting day after an hour and a half with turret defects" also failed, the general wrote.

Defects have never occurred "with this frequency".

According to the report, the electronics of the high-tech tanks in particular are vulnerable, and there was even a serious cable fire in the driver's compartment of one tank. The troops were already aware of the nature of the defects, the e-mail said, but they had "never occurred with this frequency before." The systems were only moved to shooting ranges in the North German lowlands and were "not overused" there. According to the assessment of the foreman of the affected company, which he considers very credible, the General writes, it can be assumed that the company will only be fully operational again in three to four months.

The Puma infantry fighting vehicle, which was plagued by numerous technical problems, was only declared combat-ready last year. The combat vehicle developed and produced by Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) and Rheinmetall Landsysteme GmbH (RLS) had previously made headlines as a "breakdown tank".

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At least the UK was smart (Though the Parliament had to step in on "behalf" of the MOD.) enough not to proceed with the AJAX (Another SDR decision on AJAX is supposed to be released in March 2023.) ), obviously I give the Germans too much credit.

If only Rommel or Gurdian was still around, this probably wouldn't have happened!?!

I think that your article post means a START date change if it only came into operational service last year. Might have something in my APC folder if needed.

Regards,
Pat

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There is something even more buggered up about this than usual

FWIW Wiki's source claims "In service 2015–present" They have a photo captioned "A Puma of Panzergrenadier Battalion 33 during a live-fire exercise at Bergen-Hohne Training Area in 2016." but that article says it "was only declared combat-ready last year"

Wikis sources also claim "The Puma has been in service with the German Army since April 2015. 350 vehicles have been delivered as of August 2021. Originally 405 were ordered, but on 11 July 2012 the order was reduced to 350. In March 2022 the German Army secured financing for a second batch of 229 Pumas."

So IDK WTF it is

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/puma_tracked/

The Puma entered service with the German Armed Forces in April 2015 after going through the rigorous tests and completing the final acceptance test.

UNTIL I LEARN ANYTHING MORE DEFINITIVE AND VERIFIABLE THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE IN THE GAME

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I'm sure the PUMA issue is resolved to my mind when I see words like "evaluated", "testing", "operational testing" and similar after reading several articles on the stoppage of production on the PUMA.

Well, there's more than one PUMA.

The first has been operational for a few years now. The PUMA...
http://tank-masters.de/?page_id=2986

The current "troublemaker" is the PUMA JVTF/PUMA S1 with the first PUMAs to have started the upgrade process earlier this year.
http://tank-masters.de/?page_id=8685

Arby's might have the MEAT but I have the refs. plus, the E-MO- GEEZ!

Regards,
Pat

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Well, it seems that for the time being Puma will be in the fridge:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ry-2022-12-19/

I do believe they'll sort things out eventually, but there should be a period in 2022-2023 where they arent available.

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It would appear that this "issue" only affects the latest upgrade. The originals are operational

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Well, it's finally happening these next two have been "waiting in the wings" more recently in the last week or so concerning the BRADLEY.

Someone just had to be first to step up and that was France with the AMX-10 RCR (Upgraded version.) with a new 105mm round, this is a "done deal" so it's a matter of when as opposed to if.
More on this somewhere else.

So here come the MARDERS and BRADLEYS...
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._vehicles.html
(Mentions the "French Connection".)
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._vehicles.html
(Might be the same ones Jordan received a couple of years ago.)

Now we wait for the WHEN.

Regards,
Pat

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Originally Posted by fastboat tough

(might be the same ones jordan received a couple of years ago.)[/b]

Lebanon not Jordan


Assuming this does happen and we add them to the OOB's they will be in their own UC and use the BMD sections for passengers