"Survivor 2" Round 11 is about to start

[geoschmo]

Well, congradulations by the way.

As long as I know you are gone I don't have a problem with extended leaves like that. Anything over five turns without a notice and you get booted, but you can go past five turns as long as I know ahead of time you are leaving and planning on returning.

However, that is almost three full weeks. Assuming your new marriage survives being cooped up with her for three weeks, I am not sure your empire will with you gone that long. I would advise you try and find a replacment player for while you are gone. If you can't find one I will try to find one for you.

I don't suppose the new bride would let you take your computer with you? Nah....

Geoschmo

[sparhawk]

He, if I take my computer with me, then it will be the shortest honneymoon ever.
And no we will be to busy to have time for a computer.......

Sparhawk

[geoschmo]

Also, since we already have more than 20 players, we are going to have two games, at least for the first couple rounds. Since both games will function independantly, a player is to be eliminated from each game in each round, I would have no problem with a player that is in one game acting as a temporary replacment for a player in the other game that is on an extended leave such as this.

By the time we get down to 20 players and have only one game we will have a pool of eliminated players that we can draw from as temporary replacments, assuming they are willing. Of course you are free to get someone from outside the tourney to serve as your lieutenant if you wish. They just have to have SEIV and access to PBW.

Geoschmo

[geoschmo]

Tournament registration has slowed down now. We have 26 players signed
up across the two games, which is about what I expected total. We might
get a couple more here or there, but it's doubtlful. Some of you have
already started uploading your empire files, which is fine. What I want
to do is start equalizing the two games so they have the same, or
nearly the same, number of players.

If no one else joins the tournament from this point, I would need to
move 7 players from game 1 over to game 2. What I would like is if anyone
in game 1 currently that HAS NOT already uploaded your empire file
wouldn't mind moving, you go ahead and withdraw from Game 1 and apply to
join game 2. Before you withdraw though check and make sure a bunch
haven't already done so. We only need to move a few.

If not enough people do this on their own I will randomly boot some
people and assign them to game 2. I won't do that for a couple days though
I want to make sure there aren't anymore people that want to join the
tourney.

My plan is to leave registration open until Sunday morning, then start
"encouraging" you to upload your empire files if you haven't already,
with a tentative goal to start the first round on Tuesday sometime. If
all the empires aren't uploaded by then I will start making noises about
booting people.

Have fun!

Geoschmo

[spoon]

I have a few questions about the mechanics...
- How do we know when a player has no planets (unless we play on View All Scores, perhaps)
- How do we know a player has been cut off? (ie, will the administrator know somehow, or is it up to a player to tell him?)

And a few things you might want to clarify, so there are no hard feeling later in the game:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Dumbluck, as I said I really don't think it is likely to come up, but if it does I am going to come down hard on the player doing the closing, not the one being closed off. That's not a valid method for eliminating someone in my book.

Geoschmo

- this statement makes me think you should either ban Stellar Manip, or state the rule explicitly. What if one player accidentally closes off another? (likelihood near zero, but you never know)

On player Communications:
- Is it ok to send email to a player you haven't met in the current round. Most players (myself included) follow this guideline, but since this format is a bit different, you might want to make a house rule...
- Is it ok to make a deal with another empire that extends into future rounds (for example, can I beg Askan not to kill me in the current round, in exchange for my promise not to attack him for the next three rounds...)

Thanks! The game sounds like a lot of fun, and I'm looking forward to playing.

-Spoon (Spoo to the Nth power?)

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by spoon:
I have a few questions about the mechanics...
- How do we know when a player has no planets (unless we play on View All Scores, perhaps)

Unless he gets killed off before you meet him, you will know he lost his Last planet because you will get the "lost contact with player X" log message.

- How do we know a player has been cut off? (ie, will the administrator know somehow, or is it up to a player to tell him?)

same as above. You will get a "lost contact" message.

And a few things you might want to clarify, so there are no hard feeling later in the game:

quote:

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
Dumbluck, as I said I really don't think it is likely to come up, but if it does I am going to come down hard on the player doing the closing, not the one being closed off. That's not a valid method for eliminating someone in my book.

Geoschmo

- this statement makes me think you should either ban Stellar Manip, or state the rule explicitly. What if one player accidentally closes off another? (likelihood near zero, but you never know)

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Ok, I will think abou tthis one and make a decision before we start. I don't want any abiguity if we can avoid it.

On player Communications:
- Is it ok to send email to a player you haven't met in the current round. Most players (myself included) follow this guideline, but since this format is a bit different, you might want to make a house rule...

Normally I don't allow it, but for the purposes of this tournament, I'll allow it. In fact I am looking forward to seeing people do this. I think it will add to the cutthroat nature of the tourney. You can think your making a deal with someone, and he's got deals with someone else too and planning on backstabing you. See other thread on the subject.

- Is it ok to make a deal with another empire that extends into future rounds (for example, can I beg Askan not to kill me in the current round, in exchange for my promise not to attack him for the next three rounds...)

This is allright with me. What would NOT be ok is if you said, "Askan, don't kill me now, and in a later round I'll lay down when you are about to get eliminated." Promising to assist each other is good and ok. Promising to take a dive so another can move on is bad and not ok.

Geoschmo

[Fyron]

If I were about to eliminate Empire A, say, in 4 or 5 turns, but someone esle is about to eliminate Empire B before I can get to Empire A's Last holdings, can I gift a few planets to Empire B solely for the purpose of keeping them around so that I could instead have Empire A elminated?

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
If I were about to eliminate Empire A, say, in 4 or 5 turns, but someone esle is about to eliminate Empire B before I can get to Empire A's Last holdings, can I gift a few planets to Empire B solely for the purpose of keeping them around so that I could instead have Empire A elminated?

Why sure you can. But you can also expect that sort of tactic not to sit well with everybody. So be prepared to deal with the "consequences" of your actions in later rounds.

Geoschmo

[Fyron]

They have no way of knowing if I did that. For all they know, Empire B colonized planets in far-off locations without their knowledge.

[geoschmo]

This is true, but keep in mind that Empire A's friends can do the same.