Jomon's new summons (how is Jomon now?)

[archaeolept]

it's a bug involving the mod. you can create an sp game w/ utgard and check for yourself

[Amhazair]

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

E2A1 can cast Rain of Stones... and he's Ethereal.

-Max

But with boots and summon earthpower he can cast several. Moreover, if he starts in a mountain province he can cloud trapeze without need for boosters. Do that with two or three of them in mid-game and you have an army-destroying surprise attack. And the bigger the opposing army the better. (If he starts his turn in a mountain province, will he then have his mountainform or notmountainform in any ensuing battles?) Of course, 28 gems isn't exactly cheap, but in the right circumstances it'll be absolutely worth it.

They also have good paths to allow the forging of the not-so-easy-to-get staff of elemental mastery with some boosters. And for gargoyles.

[Endoperez]

I think the mountain Kami doesn't care about the terrain, but only about his home province. Even if he's in a mountain, if it's not his home, he has weaker magic.

The forest kami uses different mechanic (forestform) and has higher magic in all forests.

[Sombre]

If true, probably because there isn't a mountainform.

[JimMorrison]

Good points, Amhazair. He just seems to be of very limited overall usefulness, I guess is what I was getting at. Not sure where you are going to get the Air boosters for him to make staves though - but they would be very interesting for Jomonese battlemagic in general, if you can get them. But it looks to me like your most likely path to that would be a 45 gem Empowerment, and a borrowed RoW forged by your pretender, then forge the first booster, and send the Ring back for other purposes - so 63 Air gems (with Hammer), and a pretender with at least 4S, plus however many pearls are needed to invest, depending on how high his Astral actually is.

Anyway, apparently these are meant more for flavor than anything, and the real game-changing stuff is still to come. I must say though, it's very nice to have access to affordable summoned thugs without Death on your pretender now, that's a big plus for Jomon mid-game, at least.

[Psycho]

If anyone here would like to jumpstart their experience with Jomonese summons in MP, there is game that needs a sub for Jomon: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41214

[Kristoffer O]

> He just seems to be of very limited overall usefulness

The Yama-no-kami never intended to make himself useful to a petty pretender upstart. He has been the ruler of his mountain for millenia, and he is very useful for the inhabitants of his lofty abode. Pretender come and pretenders go. No need to hurry away into a uncertain future in an inhospitable land making the same mistakes as most pretenders do, namely getting themselves killed by surprisingly stalwart defenders.

[Omnirizon]

Originally Posted by Kristoffer O

> He just seems to be of very limited overall usefulness

The Yama-no-kami never intended to make himself useful to a petty pretender upstart. He has been the ruler of his mountain for millenia, and he is very useful for the inhabitants of his lofty abode. Pretender come and pretenders go. No need to hurry away into a uncertain future in an inhospitable land making the same mistakes as most pretenders do, namely getting themselves killed by surprisingly stalwart defenders.

We could all learn something from the wise Yama-no-kami

[legowarrior]

Can't wait till the the next patch!

[VedalkenBear]

I'll note that 3.22 is listed as being up on 2/28.

Please tell me that means that we're getting a patch soon?