Why Kailasa, Bandar Log, and Patala NEVER WIN

[lch]

Lord_Bob said:
I have killed over 3500 gold in various nations that have attempted to eliminate me.

Aren't you sure it was OVER 9000!!!!!?

[Lord_Bob]

So you are now comparing priest and gem summons with spending 200 gold(whenever you want, the turn before the attack is just fine) for maintenance PD? Are we even having this discussion?

[Reverend Zombie]

There is only one way to settle this argument: Lord Bob plays the nation of his choice vs. a monkey nation, mano a mano.

[Lord_Bob]

I have killed over 250 men, including 18 lava men, also have killed 90 longdead(I know it's not important), a prophet, 2 mages from abysia, and something like 6 mages from EA Ermor. Not sure what the mages cost. MA MAN's capital has become a Roach Motel. Serious Combat Magic is being to come out though. So I think my fun is nearly over.

[Evilhomer]

I do not wish to get personal in any way here, but it seems you just joined a few month ago and you aren't listed as the winner of any mp games. How much testing have you done with the monkey nations really ? I don't mean single player game here, but mp games.

Really when you evaluate a nation you cannot just pick 1 thing about them and say that the nation is bad, you really want to look at several aspects first.

[NTJedi]

Lord_Bob said:
I have killed over 250 men, including 18 lava men, also have killed 90 longdead(I know it's not important), a prophet, 2 mages from abysia, and something like 6 mages from EA Ermor. Not sure what the mages cost. MA MAN's capital has become a Roach Motel. Serious Combat Magic is being to come out though. So I think my fun is nearly over.

Telestic Animations should help your dominion, hopefully you have an astral mage to cast antimagic... twist of fate might also extend your life for the province.
Before they storm the castle have someone in the back with lots of life holding a staff of storms... this will stop most flyers and you can hold them back at the gate longer.

Don't fight for death and glory... fight for ROHAN and let the horn of Mans Helm be heard one last time !

[Huzurdaddi]

I have no idea what it is about Dominions that causes the masses to freak out when someone says X is not correctly balanced. But for some reason people always come out with some kooky theory as to why it is balanced correctly.

Everyone gets it: who wins in multiplayer is usually dominated by diplomacy, and perhaps starting location.

Everyone also gets: Dominions is a very complex game with a vast number of tactical and strategic options.

However, the above two being true does not mean that Lord Bob is incorrect. As a matter of fact he is correct in that monkey PD is comically bad.

[Shovah32]

But Lord Bobs statement was not that monkey PD is bad(which most players seem to agree on) - but that the poor PD makes them poor nations and causes them to never win.

[Reverend Zombie]

Huzurdaddi said:
However, the above two being true does not mean that Lord Bob is incorrect. As a matter of fact he is correct in that money PD is comically bad.

What he's saying is stonger than that: he's saying that weak PD is why these nations can't win.

[Lord_Bob]

And what does this have to do with MP? Hmm? 1 on 1 Rush Games. The Measure Of A Nation. That said, why not. I'll play MA Man. No Bless at all. Sure. Bandar Log guy can do whatever he wants.