Mod: Warhammer MA: Empire

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Wrana

Thank you for your answers.
1. I, for my part, am going to try to make WarHammer series mostly separate - about as BlackMoon project was, which added 4 different nations from different setting with intention that they were mostly to be played against one another, not alongside Dominions staple nations. I consider this more logical - without thinking where they appeared from and why. As for how they work - I didn't play much with Tarent mod, but had an impression that firearms worked relatively well in its context.. Have you any information on this? And in WarHammer there are quite many firearms so I'm not sure that their abscence would make style the same. Mechanically, of course, difference isn't much.
2. Well, slightly different stats, of course. Just that when I thought about this, I realised that a) historical counterparts to Empire Swordsmen, i.e., Spanish rondashiers (sp?) used just them and b) I would need them anyway when working on Tilea...
3. Agree that in WarHammer most armies have them. But it could be a good way to represent higher discipline and organisation of Empire armies (I don't plan to include banners for Bretonnia foot, for example). Another possibility I thought of is to make Empire infantry more mobile both on battlefield and on a strategy map than their armor would indicate ("marching"; this wouldn't be the case for cavalry).
4. Generally yes. Which is why other possibility and 8. I just don't see Empire cavalry consisting entirely of Templars and light cavalry - there should be secular knights as well as sacred ones, and the latter, while fine in RPG context, shouldn't probably be in the game which centers around gods struggling for domination...
5. Have to agree with this - there are many commanders already... And you didn't include Engineer, I fear! By the way, I agree that Witch Hunter should have patrolling, not spying ability. If any, he is more like assassin, not spy...
6. Understand now... Not sure if it would be manageable other way, too.
7. Yes, it's somewhat of a translation problem. But in this case (and some others) I am more inclined to go by art and descriptions rather than strict WarHammer mechanic (which, after all, includes just 2 general armor types)... And the question was due to the fact that north-provinces troops I've seen depicted with different armor.
8. Well, we surely can't reduce the number of things developers throw at us! While in the mods we produce we have more freedom in regards what to not include.

1. Good luck with that huge project. Guns in dom3 can of course be simulated quite easily, but they don't look right at all to me. The nearest I would do is something like the Ogre Deathbelcher.

3. Empire organisation I'd been representing with strong PD and good for the cost State Troops. They get 11 morale for instance, representing their drilling beyond the basic infantry level.

4. I have included both secular and religious knights. I don't agree that secular knights have no place in dominions. There are quite a few examples of secular groups of troops in dom3. There are even heretics.

5. They will probably have a cheap siege bonus engineer of some sort. Well, the Altdorf faction anyway.

7. I haven't seen northern state troops with different armour. Unless you're referring to an older range of models?

[HoneyBadger]

Eventually, I have plans to do some codifying of weapons and armour to use as a general reference of effectiveness for the game. It'll take a lot of work and research, so I won't be done with it any time real soon, but I think I can do a pretty good job of illustrating what weapons and armour in the game should be capable of doing, and where are the gaps.

Hopefully, it'll serve a purpose as a handy modding reference, for me if for noone else, since it can become very time consuming and very arbitrary to just guess at what a given piece of equipment ought to do.

I'm planning on making it quite complete, containing as it should all major and most minor ancient arms, up to an including the Renaissance.

[Wrana]

3. Maybe that would be enough. But how to represent their Detachments...
4. Maybe I wasn't clear - I meant that I am against the current situation in WH when all Empire knights are considered to be from Orders (except Counts themselves, that is)!
7. Quite probably, I am not watching model lines closely. Also illustrations in Empire army books...

[Wrana]

IIRC, there are some Greatsword regiments that don't wear helmets, but other do. In 6th ed. armybook I clearly see Wissenland Greatsword in Capellino helmet (p.11), some Greatswords in what is "Iron Cap" (p. 31), Carroburgers with both (p. 42), but Talabheim with no helmet as I see (same page). I don't have 7th ed. one on hand, but I think you will get similar pattern from it.

[Wrana]

I am with you! In spirit, at least.. More seriously, I could be of help starting with October-November when I'll have enough time.

[HoneyBadger]

Good. You can work on military arms of Russia, the Slavic countries, Turkey, Mongolia, and Eastern Europe. Just give me a list, sorted by region and approximate date, with a picture if you can find one, any references, and a short description.

[Wrana]

I have to say beforehand that I don't know much about Slavic countries (I have some good articles on Poland, but not Bohemia or Serbia). Turkey & especially Mongolia would be easier - I have some friends who dig deeply indeed on these. I personally am more interested in Ancient Greece and Hellenistic world, though, of course, I have some information on Russian developments. Plus European Renessaince (mostly Germany and England), and I have also information on China and surrounding regions, particularly Korea.

[Sombre]

Take it to another thread, please.

[Wrana]

Sorry. But it's finished in any case.

[Sombre]

I said before I would upload some of the graphics I did a while ago for Empire.

So here they are. Several are unfinished. I'm not currently working on Empire, but they will be finished one day.