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December 11th, 2011, 09:13 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
My point exactly, if memory serves JDAM and other guided aerial weapons are already in the game. These pods just put the Precision back into the Precision weapons already in the game if you catch "my drift" here. But I have armor and helo issues to address first so unfortunately I will have to put this off a third year, besides Don is up to "a..es and elbows" with work as is anyway. There is some good work being done in other areas that we all might benefit from. But Jets... will be pri one for next year starting shortly after the holidays. I really feel this could be a pivot point for air in the game, we'll see.
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December 11th, 2011, 11:28 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
Only if Andy is up for some significant work.
While it's, of course, impossible for me to know exactly how game results were generated without seeing the source code ... I do have a BS in Comp Sci, so I have a fair idea what it must look like based on the data the games uses and the observable results in-game.
And it's going to involve significant work to the aircraft target selection, hit probability, anti-aircraft, and blue-on-blue code.
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December 11th, 2011, 11:53 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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Only if Andy is up for some significant work.
While it's, of course, impossible for me to know exactly how game results were generated without seeing the source code ... I do have a BS in Comp Sci, so I have a fair idea what it must look like based on the data the games uses and the observable results in-game.
And it's going to involve significant work to the aircraft target selection, hit probability, anti-aircraft, and blue-on-blue code.
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Ya it looks like at some point someone said "hey we want ME-109s strafing". Then they glommed on some code. Then some more. Then even more. Until it was a massively kludged pile of spaghetti.
Don't forget it should also get some kind of CB Air vs Air thing going on.
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December 12th, 2011, 12:56 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
The code, as is. works pretty well for WW II, Korea, or Vietnam. But it was never written with modern air capabilities in mind. For the simple reason they did not exist then the code was written
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December 24th, 2011, 03:48 AM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
Well as I try to stay on topic as much as possible, it would be embarrassing not to on a thread I started, with that in mind I'll start with the following first before I get to a highly rumored and classified USAF asset that will make the F-22 or F-35 look like well...I just can't make a reasonable comparison it's just that much faster, longer flying (No aerial refueling required.) and carries a much bigger payload. I'm surprised this picture even leaked out! It might be meant to keep the Chinese off balance after the embarrassment suffered by the U.S. earlier in the year over the J-20 unveiling while former SECDEF Gates was in China. Anyway here's the first...
1. This caused some confusion last year as to "who" is NAVAIR and what do they do. The air and weapons sections might be most useful as a "quick-look" tool in modeling these for game purposes.
http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm
The next came off the Defence Industry Daily site.
2. Now this USAF asset fell under the classified program name of "SLEIGHER" but after some further discussion to include NORAD they dropped the "ER". The new name is Survivable Laser-guided Express Integrated Gift Handling SYSTEM or SLEIGH for short.
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Amazing isn't it!?!
I hope however you celebrate it...Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!!
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December 24th, 2011, 02:01 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
LOL
Yup I fell for it
Merry *insert holiday*
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December 24th, 2011, 05:29 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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1. This caused some confusion last year as to "who" is NAVAIR and what do they do.
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Many and legendary are the battles between NAVAIR and Marine Corps Aviation.
In many respects USMC aviation is a component of NAVAIR.
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December 12th, 2011, 01:10 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
On the contrary..... the base code for this was SP2 which was the "modern" game............ that is, unless you only count "modern" as being after 1996.
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December 12th, 2011, 04:58 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
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On the contrary..... the base code for this was SP2 which was the "modern" game............ that is, unless you only count "modern" as being after 1996.
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I stand corrected.
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December 12th, 2011, 10:34 PM
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Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
Then I shall proceed with Patch Post #1 for the 2012/2013 campaign. Well after the holidays and a game or two, I know those AI Chinese are plotting against my Thai troops!
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