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				 Re: Elli (Closed, Readying) 
 I'm a bit confused as to why I am seeing crowns on my map... When I have played in past games, I only see these when using Victory Points. |  
	
		
	
	
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				December 3rd, 2007, 04:18 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Elli (Closed, Readying) 
 Yeah, there are VPs for some reason, but they don't really mean anything but a little increase in dominion when you take 'em when there's no VP victory. |  
	
		
	
	
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				December 7th, 2007, 01:36 PM
			
			
			
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 My internet died. Should be able to get turn in Saturday, though I'll extend the timer a few hours. |  
	
		
	
	
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				December 10th, 2007, 04:35 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Elli (Closed, Readying) 
 Ermor is trading for earth gems!In exchange we can offer astral or fire gems.
 
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				December 10th, 2007, 02:04 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Elli (Closed, Readying) 
 Just out of curiousity, our starting positions were drawn completely randomly, right?  --Cuz if not, I would like to know what I did to earn your hatred so... ; ) |  
	
		
	
	
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				December 10th, 2007, 03:09 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Elli (Closed, Readying) 
 Random. If there is something particularily wrong with your starting position, let me know. I can't help you now, but I can easily mod a starting position out of the game (if the map offers enough valid ones) for future games, and relevant ones. 
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				December 11th, 2007, 01:45 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Elli (Closed, Readying) 
 Well, after playing a couple of games on Aran now I think with 8-9 players someone's bound to find themselves in a very early war.
 In the Alta game I found myself boxed in between R'lyeh (who knocked out Machaka quick) and Abysia, who almost single-handledly wiped-up the map with everyone else.  FAJ's a very good player; between his skill and my starting position, there was not much I could do.
 
 In the Elli game...well I suspect I'll be fodder soon either to the next wave of Caelum's elephant rush, or to the mighty giants of Fomoria who have just appeared on my border.
 
 I'm not complaining; its just the luck of the draw.  It just means that you must have a strategy that allows you to expand quickly and protect yourself from early rushes.
 
 However, with 8 players I think that Llamabeast's modified Paraganos map (used in the Chupacabra game), with modded starting positions, would probally give each player a good chance of expanding and make for a more robust mid-end game. You may want to give this map some consideration for future games.
 
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				December 11th, 2007, 08:04 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Elli (Closed, Readying) 
 Parganos is simply hideous for even that lone water nation, though. Aran's bad with its snaky sea, but Parganos... It has the worst snaky sea ever, AND it has an unconnected sea which you can't get to without marching through land, which means if you're unlucky you won't be getting there at all.
 So as someone who's playing a water nation, I much prefer this one snaky sea over a river with a pond that's not connected to my river.
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				December 11th, 2007, 09:38 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Elli (Closed, Readying) 
 there is no unconnected water and still you are marching through a lot of land already... |  
	
		
	
	
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				December 11th, 2007, 09:48 AM
			
			
			
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 If a few shore provinces count as "marching through a lot of land", sure, you're right. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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