Troubling Times: Game over, Marverni wins

[Executor]

First, I hate you for organizing this game Amhazzir, if I fail my exams I blame you.
(I reserve the right to bow out if I bring myself to reason)
Second, I was Fomoria in Fearun, and that was a damn good game.

Kailasa
C'tis
TC

[Amhazair]

Originally Posted by Executor

First, I hate you for organizing this game Amhazzir, if I fail my exams I blame you.

I could write you a note, if you wish.

I don't know what good it'll do, mind, but I can write one...

[Executor]

Send me some of that fine Belguim chocolate to ease my pain...

[Zeldor]

We should really use UWGIM if we want anyone to enjoy playing uw nation. And it should make game really more interesting, especially for less mobile EA uw nations.

[camobeercan]

I'd love to join this game. My picks are

1. Arco!!!!!!

2. Lanka

3. Tien Chi

I'd also love not having to play Yomi.

[Verjigorm]

There are now, officially, too many people on Arco for my tastes, so I'll bow out in favor of a better chance on Ulm....

Shift me to this:

1. Ulm
2. Vanheim
3. Marverni

[Amhazair]

Well, we now have a 21st signup, (Welcome Camobeercan) but signups seem to have slowed to a trickle, and I fear if we keep waiting more people will bow out than sign on. Seems people are too sensible for a game like this one.

Additionally, the water nations are horribly unpopular, with 0 out of 63 nation picks being a water nations.

I believe we now have a couple of choises on how to proceed:

1) Forget about the glorious madness that's the Faerun map, choose a different map that's suitable for ~20 people, and play a regular largish game. (Preferably a map with not too many water provinces I suppose.)

2) Play the game as planned on the Faerun map, but utilise the dead seas map, which makes water provinces essentially worhtless. The 21 signups exactly match the number of land nations in the EA, so this could be a decent solution. I/we will have to check how the dead seas mod interacts with the fixed special provinces though, and whether all mods are compatible. (If someone could kindly point me to that mod that would be fantastic by the way, as I never downloaded it before, and couldn't find it with a quick search.)

3) The most proactive option: we wait a while longer, and see who turns up.

I'll run a quick vote untill tomorrow, and we can kick things of from there. I don't think it would be a good idea to let things drag on much longer. (Feel free to suggest good maps in case we go for option number 1 btw.)

[Herode]

IMHO :
- keep the map, no matter it is full or not
- wait for new candidates until sunday evening
- if no water nation declared, either set 3 IA for the water nations (mighty or so) or just ignore. I don't like dead seas

[Verjigorm]

I vote no on AI of any kind and feel that the map size should reflect the number of players. Waiting until Sunday is acceptable, but we could lock in current players' nations so we can start building pretenders and strategizing.

[Zeldor]

Map has many garrisons that limit the number of provinces you can expand into until mid/late game. But still 15+ provs per land nation. Much more per water nation.

With UWGIM included, you can convince some people to play water nation. Didn't Maerlande want to join as R'lyeh?