spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions - Page 5

DRG · #41 December 8th, 2013, 09:24 AM

upload the photo

zastava128 · #42 December 8th, 2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DRG

upload the photo

Ok. There were probably only 3 such vehicles. One can be found here (this is after it was captured and disarmed by the Germans):

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/valiant...48392?page=348

Unfortunately I don't have their specs. If it helps, they were probably based on some sort of Magirus-Deutz light truck.

Weapon was probably a Breda MG.

DRG · #43 December 8th, 2013, 10:31 AM

OK , for want of a better name we're going to call that a M-D AC and it's going to use the same specs and Icon as the Russian FAI but without a radio

DRG · #44 December 8th, 2013, 06:24 PM

OK.......... what is not clear in that link is that it is a Bundesarchive photo taken in 1941.

If you go to this link

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...3918&start=110

and scroll down the page you will find a larger version of this photo with the Bundesarchive info ( and once you start with this archive you'll be on line for hours... ) so it may be that this AC had been around for awhile ?

Don

zastava128 · #45 December 9th, 2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DRG

OK.......... what is not clear in that link is that it is a Bundesarchive photo taken in 1941.

If you go to this link

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...3918&start=110

and scroll down the page you will find a larger version of this photo with the Bundesarchive info ( and once you start with this archive you'll be on line for hours... ) so it may be that this AC had been around for awhile ?

Don

Well you just might be onto something. That photo was always labelled as mid-1942, Kozara Offensive. I'll have another look through more of the relevant literature when I find the time.

That topic you linked is amazing but yeah 403 pages...

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Edit: one more question: what's the "average" morale rating for partisans/resistance fighters supposed to be? It seems to vary a quite a bit from OOB to OOB - unlike experience, which is almost always 60-65. To illustrate:

French resistance
1942: 65
43-44: 70

Soviet partisans
41: 60
42: 65
43-44: 70

Yugoslav partisans
41-43: 60
44: 65

Italian partisans
43: 58
44: 63
45: 68

Polish AK
41: 70
42-44: 75

Polish AL (communist)
42: 50
43-44: 55

Czech:
41-45: 60

Norwegian
41-45: 65

Bulgarian:
42-44: 65

Greek:
41-43: 70
44-46: 75

DRG · #46 December 9th, 2013, 07:56 AM

The answer is..... it varies in the OOB's then the code varies it some more

DRG · #47 December 9th, 2013, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by zastava128

That topic you linked is amazing but yeah 403 pages...

I already had over 500 new photos in SPWW2.......then I found that resource..... ( ! )

The selection of photos I have never seen before is fantastic ( and I have been taking advantage of it...) and it's not just German stuff although that makes up a lot of it

take a look at this for example

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...918&start=3700

scroll down to the sixth photo down...............

"Soldiers of the Carpathian Lancers Regiment (2nd 'Warsaw' Armoured Brigade, 2nd Polish Corps) posing by a destroyed German Panther Ausf G tank."

look at what's on the roof of the panther. Look close it's actually two plates of spaced armour. That's the first time I have seen that and it appears to be a limited modification

Don

Here's another shot of the same tank ( before it had been looted a bit ) that shows the two plates better. This may have been a field mod but if so it was a sophisticated one

Futher digging reveals that in a book titled "Panzer Wreaks" there are "13 pictures of Panthers from 1./Pz.Rgt. 26. Two of these modified vehicles, numbers 424 and 434, have been knocked out in the night of the 15/16 April 1945 near Sesto Imolese, Italy."

So my best guess is this is a Field mod confined to this one unit but still......... never seen this before

FURTHER EDIT

Now I'm tripping over photos of this tank. Here's another one take from a different angle at a different time

zastava128 · #48 December 9th, 2013, 11:13 AM

Well now I'll have something to look through over the holidays

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Originally Posted by DRG

The answer is..... it varies in the OOB's then the code varies it some more

OK, thanks. I'll post in the appropriate OOB topic if I have any more comments on this.

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Also, if I understand correctly, the AI will be able to take allies in the next version, right? I don't know how exactly that will work, but I can provide some info on Allied troops in Yugoslavia if needed (Soviet, British, pro-allied Bulgarian).

DRG · #49 December 9th, 2013, 11:31 AM

The AI's been able to take allies for years. Right now we have enough to do

zastava128 · #50 December 18th, 2013, 11:23 AM

One thing I forgot about - since I always play *as* the partisans rather than *against* them - are the rarity radio codes for the armoured vehicles.

So here's just a few suggestions on that:

073 - code 1. There were only a few M3A1 Stuarts. Basically these were rescued from Allied scrapheaps in Italy and repaired.

105 - code 2. Over 90% of the Stuarts delivered by the British were this model.

110 - code 0. There were around 6 of these... but the only other TDs were the captured ones (Hetzer, Semovente, StuG), and those were just as rare as the Stuart funnies.

I've also found a few more photos. Will upload soon.