Poland OOB

[blazejos]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

Misc.

[b]77 HMMWV Trynka AT

Pibwl mentioned about about different variants of HMMWV in Polish army so I made some research and forged this into proposition of add-on to Polish OOB.

So what is proposed here

I proposing put this in slots 841 to 869 they are free in spob002

Tarpan Skorpion - polish very light armoured car used as a utility and patrol car especially in Iraq after 2003 and now inside Poland
Lbms Pm29660.lbm&Pm29660.lbm

Tarpan Honker - new lbm Pm29662.lbm

PWA Aero - New polish car for paratroopers first in Polish army which can land with use of transport palette which can be throw from transport aircraft's

LPU Zmija - variant of PWA aero for ground forces used as a patrol car

GAZ-69&UAZ-469&Tarpan Honker used by paratroopers since 1960 they can't land on parachute but were indented to be delivered by helicopters or transport planes.

M-ATV -MRAP from USA in use in Poland

Cougar HEV 4x4&Cougar MRAP&MaxxPro 4x4 they were on loan in Afghanistan equipped in polish weapons used by Polish contingent there after 2014 returned to US army.

HMMWV-MMG(+) also used in Afghanistan until 2009

HMMWV Tumak in different variants used in Poland now usually by Para force but also in other ground units and special forces.

Dana M2 modernised variant of Dana which now starts to be used.

Regina AWD FO - command vehicle for Krab unit

Rosomak AWD command variant also used in Afghanistan

Rosomak MMG simplifier variant with open MG also used in Afghanistan

K9PL Krab - New variant of Krab icon proposed in previous posts

Piorun Team - with nice lbm Pm29687.lbm



Also d'like to propose aircraft's in slots 924 to 949

F-35A JSF - Poland plan to buy them in 2024
Po-2 Kukuruznik - old slow biplane used as ersatz bomber and gunship during fights with post AK underground in 1950's
Yak-11&Yak18
TS-8 Bies - first polish modern coin aircraft build in local factories used for training and in case of war as ersatz AOP and ground atack
TS-11 Iskra - polish main coin small jet used for training and in case of war as a simple fighter-bomber equivalent of L-29 Delfin in rest of Warsaw Pact
PZL I-22 Iryda - ill fated successor of Iskra
M346 Bielik - Modern coin Jet in Polish army
PZL-130 Orlik - simple modern coin aircraft all variants TB TC TC2
PZL-230 Skorpion & TS-16B Grot two most advanced prototypes for indigenous coin fighter-bomber
Mi-6 - also used in Polish army but in small number 3x

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Save yourself the time and trouble of making LBM's. There is no easy way to say how unusable they are for the most part

[Pibwl]

To end with Poland, misc comments:

AFV:

402 T-72M1 - it's pretty lame "modernization", but from late 2019 (say 1/20) there are introduced modified T-72M1R with TI vision. Sadly, fire control and all the rest are the same. (I'm leaving aside the gun, which in fact on all Polish T-72s should remain on late 1980s level..).

541 Wz.77 Dana - better name is just Dana. "Wz.77" alone doesn't make much sense (it is: "armatohaubica wz. 1977" - "gun-howitzer 1977 pattern"), but this official designation is rarely used.
In last years they were modernized to Dana-T, fitted to modern artillery command and control (C3ISTAR) system Topaz, but I'm not sure if it has any impact on single unit's stats.

578 BRDM-2 Szakal - armour should be the same as basic version - only difference was armament, sand camouflage and air conditioning for Iraqi mission...
It might have better survivability, than ordinary BRDM-2 [3], because it has auxiliary wheels removed and side doors added (the same for units 570-572, 576-577)

610 Osa-AKM-P1 - I don't know if it matters in case of SP-SAM, but it also has laser RF

202 ZSU-23-MP Biala - it was rare vehicle at first - only one prototype was used in the army from 2005 [1/05], next two were modified in mid-2006, 3 in 2007... I'm afraid a significant number appeared around 2010 or later.


Guns

91,92 122mm Field Gun - of course it is pure Field Howitzer

174 122mm Gun Sec - photo is not used in Poland post-war cannon. Poland used only wartime A-19 (later modified with pneumatic wheels). There is original A-19 photo 41091 (Finnish).

204, 206 98mm Mortar - delivered only in a course of 2004 (say, 10/04) (now 10/03)

551 85mm AT-gun - photo is 100mm gun, should be 29428

564 S-125 Newa-SC,
669 SA-3 Neva SC - names should be unified. I can't verify dates at the moment, but according to one article from 1996, the first one should rather be S-125 Newa-S (self-propelled), and only the second one S-125 Newa-SC ("cyfrowy" = digital).

For a sake of consistency, 048 S-125 Neva and 041 S-125 Neva M might be renamed Polish name "Newa" and "Newa-M".


I haven't browsed all units, but that's more than enough...

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Poland in May signed a deal to purchase 24 landmark Bayraktar TB2 armed unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) from Turkish drone magnate Baykar

......I'm sure there is at least 2 people willing to tell me if these will be armed and if so, with what

[blazejos]

Looking of this article https://zbiam-pl.translate.goog/arty..._x_tr_pto=wapp I will said that are laser guided bombs Roketsan MAM-L i MAM-C of Turkish production. I spouse the same was buy by Ukraine meaby?

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by blazejos

Looking of this article https://zbiam-pl.translate.goog/arty..._x_tr_pto=wapp I will said that are laser guided bombs Roketsan MAM-L i MAM-C of Turkish production. I spouse the same was buy by Ukraine meaby?

As for now this is the only weapon carried by Bayraktar, so there's no much choice - surprisingly effective, judging from films
I've read an article, that it can carry two MAM-L, plus optionally two small MAM-C.

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

I've read an article, that it can carry two MAM-L, plus optionally two small MAM-C.

Correction: with less endurance it can take four bigger MAM-L. Which are pretty lightweight (22 kg), but can blow a vehicle anyway.
There is Ukrainian song recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGVZHLOV60E

[blazejos]

Here is a working version of "Byraktar song" [english subtitles] about Bayraktar TB2. Probably best advertisement for manufacturing company.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zii0G9lr6rQ

[DRG]

Originally Posted by blazejos

Here is a working version of "Byraktar song" [english subtitles] about Bayraktar TB2. Probably best advertisement for manufacturing company.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zii0G9lr6rQ

If nothing else comes from this at least now I can pronounce 'Bayraktar' with a convincing Ukrainian Accent and a new earworm that keeps popping into my head

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You're getting one MAM to cover both types.....weapon slots getting low