SE4 Rating System

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Slynky:
Thanks, Grandpa Kim.

(4) Generally, I think people believe a multi-player game should result in more points lost or gained than a single game but not as much as equal to a single game times the number of players in a multi-player game. (I hope that makes sense)

I think what you mean is that multi-player games should give out more points overall than a singleplayer game, but not as much for the individual player?

[Slynky]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

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Originally posted by Slynky:
Thanks, Grandpa Kim.

(4) Generally, I think people believe a multi-player game should result in more points lost or gained than a single game but not as much as equal to a single game times the number of players in a multi-player game. (I hope that makes sense)

I think what you mean is that multi-player games should give out more points overall than a singleplayer game, but not as much for the individual player?

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I think a game of, say, 4 players should result in points to the winner (and away from the loser) equal to what they would have gotten if they had won (or lost) 2 one-on-one games. The guys in 2nd and 3rd somewhere in between. And if there were 9 players, equal to 3 one-on-one games won or lost. And so on.

[primitive]

Some response after all
Slynky, your adendum to Geo's formula is not bad, but it still gives a bit strange results. What my little table do is to mix the logaritmic of Geos formula with some linear components. By changing some simple factors I can get it to give (almost) the results I want. The computation of the actual game results could be done just the same way you propose using your formula (with a little fix of the table), calculating the knocked out players points first and dividing the result among the remaining players.

Just som examples (remember the table can be twisted to give both higer values and more/less spread):

3 Players
Slynky/Geos formula: 2,60 / -0,87 / -1,73
Primitives table: 1,51 / -0,08 / -1,44

4 players:
Slynky/Geos formula: 3,67 / -0,33 / -1,33 / -2
Primitives table: 2,04 / 0,29 / -0,74 / -1,59

10 players:
Slynky/Geos formula: 8,95 / 2,62 / 1,04 / -0,01 / -0,80 / -1,44 / -1,96 / -2,42 / -2,81 / -3,16
Primitives table: 3,73 / 1,58 / 0,71 / 0,17 / -0,25 / -0,60 / -0,91 / -1,20 / -1,48 / - 1,75

Anyway, Its your call Slynky. If you want me to make a table I will do so. If you will go with the formula I'm okay with that too

[Grandpa Kim]

Primitive's calculations are not quite what I envisioned you mean, Slynky. Is he right? If so, I heartily endorse your plan.

Sorry Primitive, but I still find the numbers in your table a tad low. Just my opinion.

[primitive]

As I said, they can be tweaked

But if everybody is happy with the Slynky/Geo formula then there should be no need

[Fire]

I am looking to get a rated game going. I just finished up a game with Baron Grazic. He worked me over pretty good but that is how you learn. Great game Baron I learned alot. I am a newby with just a little experience. If anybody is interested let me know.

[Joachim]

Originally posted by Fire:
I am looking to get a rated game going. I just finished up a game with Baron Grazic. He worked me over pretty good but that is how you learn. Great game Baron I learned alot. I am a newby with just a little experience. If anybody is interested let me know.

I'm always up for more games.

[Atrocities]

What I like is when you can schedule a turn fest with your opponent. Then the game become really interesting really quick.

[Fire]

Hi Joachim,

I was thinking of a game like this:

No Events
No Intel
No Anchient Race
No Religion
3 Lg Planets
2000 Race Points
Geos Balanced Map
Standard KOTH Settings

If you have any preferences let me know.

Fire

[Slynky]

Originally posted by Fire:
Hi Joachim,

I was thinking of a game like this:

Geos Balanced Map

If you have any preferences let me know.

Fire

Just a reminder to both, to prevent a bad start, you cannot take NONE atmosphere with this mod.