Adamant Mod Discussion Thread - Page 57

Atrocities · #**561** May 5th, 2004, 07:24 PM

I have to say that this is a very enjoyable mod to play now that the AI can actually play.

Nice update and I look forward to more.

Fyron · #**562** May 5th, 2004, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aiken:
The main problem I can see, is not maintanence but investments into the construction of such bases: 20000 resources x 5 comp per base = 100000 resourses (asuming 10:1 scale). That is quite expensive and takes long time for non-HW planets to build. To workaround this you can add positive Modified Maintenance Cost ability to this component and make them cheaper. Will the positive and negative values substract from each other, or not?

Yeah, build times are an issue... The maintenance values will stack. I am not positive if they just add linearly, or if they multiply, with one increasing maintenenace first, then the other decreasing it. Anyone want to test it?

Aiken · #**563** May 6th, 2004, 05:39 AM

It seems to work this way:
Final_maint_cost = Empire_Start_Maint_Cost + Initial_hull_maint_reduct + N*Mod_maint_cost_from_comp1 + M*Mod_maint_cost_from_comp2 +...

IE, Comp1 has Modified Maintenance Cost=20; Comp2 has Modified Maintenance Cost=-5; Comp3 has Modified Maintenance Cost=10. Hull has Modified Maintenance Cost=-90.
In Adamant, final maintanence for this hull with 4 Comp1, 2 Comp2 and 3 Comp3 will be 110%: (100-90+4*20+2*[-5]+3*10=110).

[ May 06, 2004, 04:50: Message edited by: aiken ]

Fyron · #**564** May 7th, 2004, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Empire_Start_Maint_Cost + Initial_hull_maint_reduct

This can't be true... if it were, stock game bases would have 25 - 50 = - 25% maintenance, which they do not... it is 12.5%.

Aiken · #**565** May 7th, 2004, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

quote:
Empire_Start_Maint_Cost + Initial_hull_maint_reduct

This can't be true... if it were, stock game bases would have 25 - 50 = - 25% maintenance, which they do not... it is 12.5%.

Sorry, I see my mistake now. This formula should be correct:
Final_maint_cost = Empire_start_maint_cost * (1+ [Initial_hull_maint_reduct + N*Mod_maint_cost_from_comp1 + M*Mod_maint_cost_from_comp2 +...]/100)

edit: fixed the error again.

[ May 07, 2004, 06:58: Message edited by: aiken ]

Atrocities · #**566** May 7th, 2004, 11:10 AM

No wonder I can never win a PBW game. I am playing against rocket scientists and number loving uber geeks.

tesco samoa · #**567** May 7th, 2004, 05:36 PM

AT why does Women and food come in Last for your interests..... ? Do I smell Geek

Fyron · #**568** May 7th, 2004, 09:59 PM

Ok I do not know why, but for some reason Parabolize was able to get the mod to work by installing an old 0.13.xx Version, then applying the 0.14.04 Lite and Race Pack files as a patch... most bizarre. This leades me to supsect that some people's systems have problems with the intro pics... if the mod causes SE4 to lock up or crash on you, try deleting the Intro.bmp pics. Tell me if this does not work...

parabolize · #**569** May 7th, 2004, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Ok I do not know why, but for some reason Parabolize was able to get the mod to work by installing an old 0.13.xx Version, then applying the 0.14.04 Lite and Race Pack files as a patch... most bizarre. This leades me to supsect that some people's systems have problems with the intro pics... if the mod causes SE4 to lock up or crash on you, try deleting the Intro.bmp pics. Tell me if this does not work...

It has become more bizarre. I unpacked Adamant FQM.exe in windows gave it a differnt name and moved the Space Empires IV Gold/Adamant0.14.04/Pictures/Game folder into My Documents folder. Then I put in the 0.13.xx Pictures/Game folder and it loaded without crashing. Next I added the 0.14.04 files one by one back into the 0.14.04 and it never crashed. Dont ask me why this would change anything but it did.

Fyron · #**570** May 8th, 2004, 12:21 AM

Very, very strange...