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January 4th, 2010, 03:01 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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Thought designed to be supposedly air dropable not helo transportable weight something like 17 tons
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They were intended to be air dropable.
I know they've done tests dumping them out of aircraft but to the best of my knowledge it's never been done outside of the tests.
I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can.
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You're right, air droppable, not helo liftable. But FYI, the CH-53E Super Stallion can lift 17.8 tons:
http://www.history.navy.mil/planes/ch53.htm
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I suppose they could fuel and load ammo in them after they're lifted someplace
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January 4th, 2010, 07:01 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can
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Off topic but always wondered how they get the crane out once they have built the building round it, is this the solution?
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January 4th, 2010, 11:30 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can
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Off topic but always wondered how they get the crane out once they have built the building round it, is this the solution?
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Nope, the cranes are modular, they just disassemble them.
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January 5th, 2010, 09:32 AM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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The "tank" in the photo looks like a light armoured scout vehicle similar to the Daimler Armoured Car or something of equal size. Not a MBT or tank in general.
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January 5th, 2010, 03:35 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
Wdll,
I clicked on that link showing the vehicle being helo lifted. The link must be broken because it won't show the picture....
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January 5th, 2010, 05:26 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
It shows fine to me, but uses flash to show.
Here, I will upload it here to have a look.
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January 10th, 2010, 04:00 AM
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I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can.
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The Mi-26 can carry 20 tons, even a bit more in a pinch.
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January 11th, 2010, 12:31 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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I do believe there are a FEW civilian heavy lift helos (used for construction) that could pick one up, but nothing in the military inventory can.
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The Mi-26 can carry 20 tons, even a bit more in a pinch.
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While 20 tons would allow it to move most APC/IFV's I can't think of a single "real" tank that weighs in at less then about 40-45 tons. And since the discussion was about helo lifting tanks...
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January 12th, 2010, 11:55 AM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
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While 20 tons would allow it to move most APC/IFV's I can't think of a single "real" tank that weighs in at less then about 40-45 tons. And since the discussion was about helo lifting tanks...
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I was referring to Sheridan which at 17-18 tons is within the Mi-26 carry capacity.
A full blown MBT is of course out of the question. A Mi-12 (the record holder at 40 tons) might have managed to lift a early T-64 (38 tons give or take) but it would not have got very far in all likelyhood and it was not mass produced.
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January 12th, 2010, 07:53 PM
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Re: Repair vehicle and units
Here it is next to a Mig-29 for comparison:
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That thing looks like a commerial airliner with helicopter blades!
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