This game is an expensive coaster - Page 6

Suicide Junkie · #51 May 25th, 2001, 09:05 PM

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However, I didn't and I don't know anything about those you mentioned.

Well, now you do... so have fun whomping those overseas friends of yours with your elite strategic skillz

Possum · #52 May 25th, 2001, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by Kagetora:
Of course those of you not so bright or strategically minded might consider it adequate but when my golden retriever beat it he said it sucked too.

Damned impressive dog you got there, dude. You selling any puppies?

Kagetora · #53 May 25th, 2001, 09:45 PM

Was it ever really advertised? I only remeber it being mentioned as 'planned'. Post me a quote and I may feel otherwise.<<<<

What's the difference? Read the malfador news where at both Thanksgiving and Christmas Aaron said he was working on the multiplayer for the next patch. That was 6 months ago. You can't just spout features you intend to put in to get everybody to buy the game based on those claims then not follow through. If somebody sold you a house and said they would fix the roof and you moved in in good faith and then they didn't fix the roof. Not only would that be unethical as hell but they would be in violation of a verbal contract and would get their asses sued off. That is exactly what happened here.

Warlord Adamus · #54 May 25th, 2001, 09:55 PM

"Well, look I understand the difficulty in doing creative type things like this. However, you can't advertise you are selling something and then not deliver what you advertised and people paid their money to get. I don't care if is deliberate on their part or not they still have an obligation to provide the product they said they would. I have a hard time believing that if Aaron had really wanted to he could have finished this game in more than 8 entire months. Entire games have been started from scratch and finished in less time. Problem is he has the money already so he has little incentive now to finish this game the way he said he would."

TC/IP wasn't advertised nor was it promised. As with all of the other suggestions sent to MM, Aaron filed it under 'to do'. We still may yet see it. Implying you were decieved is pretty stupid when it was never on any features page. He said he was working on it, if the wait is too long for you too bad, other things have higher priorities.

Sinapus · #55 May 25th, 2001, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Kagetora:
Was it ever really advertised? I only remeber it being mentioned as 'planned'. Post me a quote and I may feel otherwise.<<<<

What's the difference? Read the malfador news where at both Thanksgiving and Christmas Aaron said he was working on the multiplayer for the next patch. That was 6 months ago. You can't just spout features you intend to put in to get everybody to buy the game based on those claims then not follow through. If somebody sold you a house and said they would fix the roof and you moved in in good faith and then they didn't fix the roof. Not only would that be unethical as hell but they would be in violation of a verbal contract and would get their asses sued off. That is exactly what happened here.

No, it looks like you are lacking in patience and are having a public snit over it. Because they didn't do things to satisfy your wants.

There was no set promise for TCP/IP play. Only that they were working on it. Obviously, they ran into some snags. The map editor was mentioned at that time as well and it only came out a few weeks ago.

Btw, care to support your claim about your golden retriever? Or were you just spewing insults in advance of anyone who might just dare to disagree with your assessment?

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"What do -you- want?" "I'd like to live -just- long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this..." *waggle* "...can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"

Jourin · #56 May 25th, 2001, 10:27 PM

Other companies continuely promise features and then don't deliver, take the customers money and run. Aaron and MM is not doing that. Review the history of support for SEIII for additional support. Aaron and MM have set the standard for cusotmer support.

So your attack on Aaron, MM, and Shrapnel for lack of customer support invalidates all you other arguments. Your crediability is non existent and personally I do not believe any of your claims on beating the AI on high difficulty with your hands tied. You implied that you haven't played a game since before Christmas, which means you have not played against the new AI. And being a blunt person, I will just call you a liar.

And the only reason I responded to this message was to show my appreciation for the outstanding customer support I have received from Aaron.

Dracus · #57 May 26th, 2001, 12:09 AM

Well I for one am still waiting for simcity 3000 to get patched with all the things that were posted on their site over a year ago as coming in a patch. Have yet to see one patch for that game. (now here is a game that did not live up to it's prior Version. They made some nicer building pictures but the map editor is worst then the one in simcity 2000. they took out all the cool arcos but show them on the box cover.) man now that game was a total rip off.

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Sirkit · #58 May 26th, 2001, 12:49 AM

I'd like to appilogize for my rant earlier but this guy rubs me the wrong way. This HAS always been a freindly forum but this thread and it's creator are changing that and it's the PITS!!! Okay hes upset because theirs no TCP/IP support to witch he beleives was promised him, got news for you it was MENTIONED not PROMISED there is a big diference there. I could say I'll send you world peace for your b-day but I won't because I can't I don't have time to solve every problem in the world, same goes for Aaron can you imagine how he would feel if he read this! He's benn called slow a backroom dealer and a LIAR!! How dare anyone say such a thing about anyone, let he who is perfect throw the first stone.

BTW Blizzard one of the largest and most influential programing companies has taken 3 YEARS from planing to present to send out War Craft 3 because they believe that if you take your time it will be better in the long run. Who here hasn't played StarCraft hmmm? It by the way took 4 Years to make.

My advice to Aaron would be take your time have a life go out on occasion as long as you keep us posted once and a while We'll still be here to defent your image from people like this who would throw the first stone by false beleif that they are perfect.

Kagetora · #59 May 26th, 2001, 03:02 AM

No, it looks like you are lacking in patience and are having a public snit over it.<<<<

Yeah, I am lacking in patience I only waited for 8 months without saying anything. Oh and the thing about the dog was a...well it was a joke. Apparently you have about as much a sense of humor as you do an intellect which is none. Many of you really need to quit playing this piece of crap game and go read a book. Then perhaps you could get your IQ's higher than your shoe sizes.

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jc173 · #60 May 26th, 2001, 03:12 AM

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Originally posted by Kagetora:
Was it ever really advertised? I only remeber it being mentioned as 'planned'. Post me a quote and I may feel otherwise.<<<<

What's the difference? Read the malfador news where at both Thanksgiving and Christmas Aaron said he was working on the multiplayer for the next patch. That was 6 months ago. You can't just spout features you intend to put in to get everybody to buy the game based on those claims then not follow through. If somebody sold you a house and said they would fix the roof and you moved in in good faith and then they didn't fix the roof. Not only would that be unethical as hell but they would be in violation of a verbal contract and would get their asses sued off. That is exactly what happened here.

Actually there's quite a bit of difference between an actual advertisement/contract and a list of features that may be implemented. There are laws that govern advertising, but I don't think a todo list is covered anywhere under contract law. It might depend on how the list itself was presented etc etc but I digress. If you want to get into the realm of contract law and other legalities, well nowhere in the those two news updates does it specifically state that either of the two updates in question refer to TCP/IP implementation of multiplayer games. The first refers to a utility to assist with muliplayer games which I guess is the PBEM tool, I can't be sure since I've never really taken a look at it though. The second update only refers to multiplayer enhancement.