Mod: Warhammer MA: Empire

[Mordici]

I think making each of the leaders of the magic colleges a pretender choice really limits what the Empire is and can be in the game. You could do exactly what you are proposing by simply summoning the one master of the magic college that you want and just working within their magic paths and ignoring the others.

I would rather have them all as choices to summon. Who knows you might just need those other college heads later on to give the Empire a splash of a certain color here or there

[llamabeast]

You could do exactly what you are proposing by simply summoning the one master of the magic college that you want and just working within their magic paths and ignoring the others.

Er, what. No. The point with a pretender is that you start off with them and they could be a source of gems. Summoning a high level mage is a very different matter.

Anyway, say you took the Bright pretender, that wouldn't limit you from the other colleges at all. You'd be in the same position with respect to, say, the Amethyst college as if you'd just taken one of the vanilla pretenders. It's just that you'd have a boost getting started with the Bright wizards because of your extra fire gems.

I wasn't proposing limiting the available summons depending on who your pretender is. Just adding some pretenders which supply gems.

Anyhoo, this is an irrelevant discussion in a sense. We will have to see what Mr. Sombre is thinking!

[Sombre]

It's an interesting idea. I actually think more pretender options should allow you to get hold of gems, because you can effectively already spend points at that stage on getting gold, so why not a specific type of gem?

Problem one is that I want to have the patriarchs available as unique summons. They aren't capable of god level magic, so they wouldn't make a lot of sense as F9 S9 pretenders. However I could add a symbol for each of the winds/lores/colleges of magic with minimum trouble, which would produce gems of the appropriate type. Something like a blackened obelisk for Fire, a model of the celestial spheres for heavens etc. Set their new path requirements very high, give them gem production, researchbonus, high in their natural path(s) etc

Problem two is for some reason I don't like doing pretenders. So we'll see what happens. But it's a good idea which would let people focus on one school heavily if they really wanted.

[Redeyes]

How far along with Empire are you, Sombre?
I'm quite interested in taking up modding - I was looking at Empire as it as a nation I'm interested in, both in seeing it adapted here and otherwise.
Though if you're about to release something I will wait to see your go, your creations are top-notch.

[Sombre]

Not very far at all. I have come code and I have some sprites, but it's nowhere near finished.

I'd work with someone to do it if we were on the same page about stuff and the artwork wouldn't end up looking like a mishmash.

[Burnsaber]

All right, I've finished the (possible) Bright Wizard pic. I went with the WRFP description of imperial bright mages (a'k'a well trained and inspired military leaders as well as mages). If you like the style & quality of the pic, I could be inspired to do more mages (but I'm getting more and more tempted to do Brettonia, so I could switch projects..).

[BandarLover]

I think they look good, Burn! Though I would suspect a bright mage to have more fire, fiRE, FIRE!!

And, if I may throw my 2 cents worth in...

Why not start with a Brettonia mod while making the odd off graphic to help Sombre out with Empire? Not that Sombre really NEEDS help, I'd think, he is quite prodigious at turning out great artwork to go along with his mods. So I guess I'm saying, 'Go make Brettonia!' that way I can have a couple human Warhammer races with which to beat back the skaven, ogre, and lizard hordes!

[Burnsaber]

Originally Posted by BandarLover

I think they look good, Burn! Though I would suspect a bright mage to have more fire, fiRE, FIRE!!

Well, magic is sort of tabu in Warhammer world. It is born of Chaos, corrupting and evil by it's very nature. Every spell a wizard casts might backfire by a Tzeenetch's Curse. Hence they really don't light stuff on fire just for a show, it's not worth of being impaled by pitchforks.

Besides, there will also be a Bright Order Patriarch, so I need to top the "Epicness" when/if I do him too. He can have fire.

Originally Posted by BandarLover

Why not start with a Brettonia mod while making the odd off graphic to help Sombre out with Empire?

Took heed of your advice, see the new hype thread for Breton for details

Originally Posted by BandarLover

Not that Sombre really NEEDS help, I'd think, he is quite prodigious at turning out great artwork to go along with his mods. So I guess I'm saying, 'Go make Brettonia!' that way I can have a couple human Warhammer races with which to beat back the skaven, ogre, and lizard hordes!

Sombre seems to a bit of a perfectionist (doing spawns for all the lizard gods! Damn, talk about fine-detail!) and his time is limited -> slow progress rate. He was the one to actually suggest that I help him out in IrC a while back. Besided, Im pretty hyed about the Empire nation myself. If I can somehow help to make surface faster, I'm all for it.

[Sombre]

I have been super busy the last couple of days. Hopefully I can power out some ogre stuff tomorrow and get closer to doing actual content for Empire.

Until then let's wait and see about collaboration - I don't want to set you off doing stuff while I get sidetracked by another project or sit around twiddling my thumbs :]

[Burnsaber]

Originally Posted by Sombre

Until then let's wait and see about collaboration

Ugh. If llamabeast had the balls to do it..

Originally Posted by llamabeast

Also, comment on the spell, comment on the spell!

Also, comment on the pic, comment on the pic!