Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
john doe. didn't suck first year.

I agree, that is why I said generally. But John Doe was cancelled non the less.

Look at Enterprise, its first season was good, the best first season of any of the seties say for TOS, and its Ratings have done nothing but plummet.

[Atrocities]

Talking about Enterprise, the Last weeks episode with the haunted Vulcan ship was especially good. I truly enjoyed that episode as it was one of the first ORIGINAL episodes for Enterprise. Very enjoyable with an occational scare. They should have held that episode off until Halloween.

[ October 14, 2003, 22:03: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Enterprise is messed up. let's start with the shows romu-i mean 'vulcan's'.

but we've had this arguement.

[ October 14, 2003, 22:22: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Loser]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
We should point out in all fairness that the first year for any series generally suck.

To contest:
X-Files
Strange Luck

[ October 14, 2003, 22:24: Message edited by: Loser ]

[Atrocities]

I just watched the ScFi channels premier for Battlestar, and I have to say man what a bunch of self absorbed ego manacks. "I am playing starbuck, and I am a girl, deal with it."

I will watch the mini series and from what little I have seen, I am sure it will be good. Ron Moore is not a dummy and can write, so that is a plus. The casting is ok, but not the greatest. But Starbuck and Boomer as women??? Well ok, things change and this is a new series so why the hell not.

All in all, I am just very glad to see the series being revived. Even though it is not what I would have done, it still is BSG.

Ron Moore has some funny ideas for things, he didn't really have a clue about who the Cylons were and such, but he did make a good point about the fact that the orginal series never really giving much info about them. The Cylons were created by a race of raptillian creatures who were destroyed by their own machines. That was made very clear in the original series, but Ron Moore thought the cylons were raptillians inside of the suites, kinda like clones in stormtrooper uniformes in Star Wars.

I am glad that BSG is finally getting some credit, but it angers me to think that Ron Moore was so desprate to make his own mark in ScFi that he chose to claim BSG as his own creation, not realizing the huge fan base the show had accumulated over the years. You would think that someone coming from a Star Trek environment would have done his home work on the fan base before announcing his Battlestar Galactica project. Well he is human I guess, or is he????

Either way you cut it, pro or con, it is just nice to see BSG being revived. I hope when the SciFi Channel remake Star Wars, they don't change Chewbacca into a girl and have the Humanoid Human looking Robot C3P-0 fall for her. Or worse, make Han Solo a women, and her fall Lea. eeeewww .... hummmm wait, that might be interesting.......

[ November 29, 2003, 04:45: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[gregebowman]

I also can't wait for the new BSG, even though it might take awhile to get used to a female Starbuck. I'm old enough to remember this show when it was prime-time viewing on ABC. I also remember the origin of the Cylons, although I can't remember if it was from the series or from a book. I hope this show is good enough to make into a series. However, having said that, I still wish that Richard Hatch (the original Apollo) would get his BSG project on tv also. Might be interesting to see how both Versions compare.

As far as a televised Star Wars, I can only imagine that happening when George Lucas is in the grave, and whoever is in charge of Lucasfilms is going for the bucks instead of a quality product. I just can't see Lucas letting anyone else have any creative control over his creation, except for when he had the 2 cartoon series back in the 80's. I don't know if he had anything to do with that except give his approval.

[Starhawk]

Well I have to disagree with the "self absorbed ego maniacs" as the line "I'm starbuck....deal with it" is directed at all the freaky people who B and M about starbuck being a woman like it really matters in the long run. It's a SHOW people they can change Starbuck into a six legged four eyed bug for all I care as long as the show it's self is good.
And lets face it the original female cast of BSG was nothing but a bunch of sexy whiny babies that couldn't fight their way out of a paper bad...or they could fight their way out of a paper bag but would then be crying about hurting the bag.

As to what Ron Moore said about the Cylons he's right I've watched that series a few times over now and not once did it say where the Cylons came from all you would see was an "Imperius Leader" who looked kind of like a baloon headed reptile. So when I first saw it I thought they were reptile "drones" in armor until I first saw them disasemble one of the centurions in a much later episode.
I also agree that it was one of the campiest peices of junk ever produced aside from Buck Rodgers. I mean don't even get me started on how lame it was when they found "Terra" not this one but the other one .

I am personally kind of happy that they are gonna have some kickass babes in the show for once even if they are replacing a whiney guy (boomer) and a womanizing scuzz ball who managed never to be caught ;-). And the fact is woman are now fighter pilots and soon if the law is passed they will also be combat infantry so they need to be represented in a series that takes place in a society that is centuries more advanced then us.
I was raised around girls and women that were the kickass take no crap kind of people that I just love and watching the original cry babies of BSG made me shift between laughing my butt off and getting really pissed off at times and wanting to slap these woman back into sanity. Besides ain't nothing sexier then a babe with firepower as I always say ;-).


As for the writing involved in the new BSG I do beleive it will be very good because of the parts of the story I've seen and heard. I just can't wait to get to check out the new ships and stuff. And to get to see the battle between the Colonial Fleet and the Cylons.

P.S. The Richard Hatch Version of BSG was supposed to come out in 2000 or 2002 so it must have been scrapped for some reason.

[ December 02, 2003, 19:09: Message edited by: Starhawk ]

[gregebowman]

Starhawk, I don't know how old you are or if you grew up watching American tv in the 1970's like I did, but most shows were about the man being the action hero and the women being in teh supportive role. I'm not defending it, but that's just the way it was. At least BSG had formed a female squadron when the males got sick in that one episode. I'm not "B & M" about Starbuck being a female, but after living 25 years with Dirk Benedict's face in your mind, it does take some adjustment to get used to the fact that it's going to be a female. I have no problems with females being fighter jocks or soldiers, either in tv or in real life. I was in the military, and saw several gung-ho type females, and I don't think too many of them were of the butch type. And I have to strongly disagree with your statement about BSG being campy. Maybe you're thinking about Galactic 1980, which was a big pile of dog excrement if there ever was one. Maybe it wasn't to your taste, but in the late 70's, that's about all we had to watch for sci-fi, except for Buck Rogers and Six Million Dollar Man. Now BR definitely got campy toward the end. But I can't see how you could ever call BSG campy. Maybe by today's standards it is, but nothing can be campier than Lost in Space (the series, not the movie).

[Starhawk]

I'm talking about the people who actually stood there protesting the fact that Starbuck was gonna be a woman .

And it's rather campy if you get down to those episodes where they found the non earth Terra I mean those annoying androids and the like....that was really really campy.

I do think I was thinking about 1980 when I refered to the whole series as Campy though...I mean that was just horrible and what the hell were they thinking!?!?!?!?!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

We should point out in all fairness that the first year for any series generally suck.

John Doe

i just wish the first one wasn't the Last one.