What is the Name our Moon?

[JurijD]

Originally posted by geoschmo:

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Originally posted by JurijD:
Actually you´re overly english-centrical guys. Our moon is simply called "The Moon".

No, actually I am not being english-centrical. How can you say I am being english-centrical when what I am providing is not the english word? Although if I had been provding the english word for the name of the moon it would be understandable since my post was in english. It's not being "english-centric" of me to make Posts and not provide the translation for every possible language on earth. If the person reading my post cannot read english, they probably aren't reading this forum, or they have some tool available to them to do the translation. The fact that Luna and Sol are latin words is only because most scientific terms are latin words. The reason scientists use latin words for things is so they can talk to other scientists and be understood without being accused of using "english-centric" terminology.

As I said, "The Moon" is not the proper name for our moon, regardless of what language you are speaking. It is not technically incorrect, but it is not scientifically specific. Luna is the correct scientific nomenclature for our moon. It would be as similer to if people on the forum refered to you a "The Slovenian". It would not be technically incorrect, but it's not your name. And if there are others from Slovenia on the forum, we might not know who people are refering to. When you refer to the moon as "The Moon" everybody knows which moon you are talking to, because everyone hearing you is from earth. At least we think. But that doesn't make it it's name.

A roža is a rose, JurijD.

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You totally missed my point geo... What I was saying was this:

1. You are asking yourselves wether or not our Moon has a name. Beacause you feel that "The Moon" is not specific enough as english speaking nations refer to every natural satellite around a planet as "A Moon".

2. Therefore you proposed that "The Moons" name is "Luna" as it is the old latin/greek term for our Moon. (and those guys didn´t need to name any other moons because they didn´t know they existed).
3. When science discovered other moons they didn´t name them "Luna" but Europa, Titan, Fobos, etc. etc. So the Name "Luna" is unique in ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRIES!
4. I pointed out that the name "Luna" is not unique only to our Moon in slavic nations we kept the old roman/latin word for our Moon and applied it to others science discovered; whereas english developed its own word for our "Luna" .."The Moon" and applied that to other moons that were discovered.
5. Therefore saying our Moon is named "Luna" can only make sense if you are an english speaking person. For us slavic nations it would be more sensible if we would call our "Luna" "The Moon" as we don´t call any other natural satellites "The Moon"
6. Don´t get so defensive at every statement someone makes hehehe. Calling you english-centrical was not meant in the way you thought it was. It was just there to signify that your´re looking at the problem of naming our Moon from the english point of view. I just added that there other views too.

OH, and you get an A for effort on the roža. Although the word "roža" is common to most slavic Languages it does have slightly different meanings in several of them. In Slovenian "roža" doesen´t mean "a rose" but simply "a flower" or any plant that blossomes (how do u spell that) in pretty colors.

A "rose" is called "vrtnica" over here.(Translated into english "vrtnica" would mean "garden flower") But I´m curious, where did you look up "roža" ?

[ January 28, 2004, 07:34: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[Atrocities]

Ok, about this company that is selling land on the moon because they filed a claim on the moon as there own property, what do you think about that?

Will we go to war over the moon? Does any one man or company have the right to claim the moon as there own property even if they file a claim with the UN and or other authority?

(I think the guy was on Jay Leno, Letterman, or Cohnan. I don't recall which.)

I can see a time when we will fight over ownership of the moon, and over other planets.

I don't know what the Moons "offically recognized name" is, so I asked. There is no offically recognized name for the moon except the "moon."

You would think that someone would have brought this up sooner over the Last 500 years or so. That someplace at sometime someone would have said, "Wait a minute, lets give the moon an offical name."

Hell NASA doesn't even know of any offical planetary agreed upon name for the Moon except Luna and the Moon.

So is the moon named Luna? I don't believe that it is the offically world wide accepted name.

God I cannot beleive I am the first person to ask this question! Let the record show that I am. Watch now, in the next few years we will begin to see a lot about this and it all started here.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by JurijD:
A "rose" is called "vrtnica" over here.(Translated into english "vrtnica" would mean "garden flower") But I´m curious, where did you look up "roža" ?

Just some website I found that had translations. It had vrtnica listed as well, but I was afraid that might be some kind of unusual use of the term that depended on context or something. The websites aren't so good with translating whole sentances because they depend so much on context. You need people for that still. Although the computers are getting better at is. Roža looked close, so I went for the easy one, which was wrong of course.

As to your other points, all good ones. See my later Posts and you will see I've come around to accepting your point of view pretty much. Although I still don't like it.

I didn't realize Luna was still used for moon in some latin Languages. The nice thing about using latin for scientific terms is its a dead language, so you don't end up using words that mean something else in a different language. But since Luna is still being used that doesn't really work the way I thought it would in this case. It solves the problem for me, but causes the problem for everyone already using luna to mean moon.

So, more weight to the Bob idea.

Laws yes. M O O N spells Moon!

[David E. Gervais]

You people are silly, the 'original' name for the moon (aka Luna) was/is Artemis.

Now who wants to disprove me by finding 'earlier' references to the moon and it's name?

Cheers!

[dogscoff]

Now who wants to disprove me by finding 'earlier' references to the moon and it's name?

I believe the first ever name for the moon was something like:
"Ug-big-round-sky-night-shiny"

[Growltigger]

Nah Dogscoff, I suspect you are severla thousand years too advanced, I suspect that the first nasme for the moon was "ook ook ook" accompanied by paw waving and jumping up and down

[David E. Gervais]

..or perhaps the very first name for the moon was..

Aroooooooooooooo! I know the wolves would agree.

Cheers!

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by dogscoff:

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Now who wants to disprove me by finding 'earlier' references to the moon and it's name?

I believe the first ever name for the moon was something like:
"Ug-big-round-sky-night-shiny"

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I feel quite safe in doubting that early homosapiens verbal communicatedion consisted primarily of phrases containing small syllable english words.

[PvK]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Ok, about this company that is selling land on the moon because they filed a claim on the moon as there own property, what do you think about that?

I think they are probablyly scum, and should be prosecuted as scam artists.

Will we go to war over the moon?

Hard to say. Humans are stupid enough to do so at some point.

Does any one man or company have the right to claim the moon as there own property even if they file a claim with the UN and or other authority?

No.

... So is the moon named Luna?

Yes, by some people.

I don't believe that it is the offically world wide accepted name.

Sounds like it isn't.

God I cannot beleive I am the first person to ask this question! Let the record show that I am. Watch now, in the next few years we will begin to see a lot about this and it all started here.

You're not.

PvK

[Taera]

to the original topic, not sure if it was mentioned before but wouldn't the name be Sol III A?