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February 2nd, 2004, 10:20 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
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Once I get a map I like the looks of, I copy the seed from the map file, paste it into a batch file, and adjust the other parameters to tweak it.
Here's my "base" switches:
-d 0 -pl 15 -nl 260 -tc 900 -sa 2 -ns 25 -ss 55 -wl 30 -ls 25 -r 1.7
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OK, since I cannot help you get the "new and somewhat improved" dommap to run on your machine, I ran it with your switches for 3 1600x1200 maps; the results are here .
If you want more, you can email me at (duchon) dot (philippe) at (free) dot (fr)
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February 2nd, 2004, 10:34 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
Targa,
The ones I run come from a basic program that runs ALL the parameters as randoms. If there are one or two on my list that seem "perfect" I can quote the variables that were used.
Do you want a nightly run to put a dozen or so into your directory on my machine?
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February 2nd, 2004, 10:44 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
Phil: Awesome! I saved map #3, which I really like the looks of. Your mod of DomMap must have changed something other than map size and .map files, because when I use the same seed with DomMap 1 it gives me a totally different picture.
Gandalf: As I mention above, the 2 progs generate diff maps even w/same seed, so giving me the variables wouldn't allow me to generate anything similar-looking. If you could do a nightly run, I can download any I like, which would be awesome. Could you set it up so it uses the same file names every day, overwriting yesterdays files? That way I won't have to delete any, and your hard drive won't fill up.
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February 2nd, 2004, 11:01 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
Targa,
Would you rather have the multi-colored ones like PhilD did? The advantage would be that the .map would have different terrains matching what the tga did. Or is it easier to all one color (which color?)
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February 2nd, 2004, 11:29 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
Easier to have it all one color, brown is fine. I'll have to edit the terrain data anyway, otherwise I'd be limited in where I could place mountains, forests, etc.
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February 3rd, 2004, 12:22 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
Just to tease you all.. (or maybe Kris will see it)
http://terraform.sourceforge.net/tf_screens.html
Unfortunately I dont run GUI stuff on my linux
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February 3rd, 2004, 12:33 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
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Phil: Awesome! I saved map #3, which I really like the looks of. Your mod of DomMap must have changed something other than map size and .map files, because when I use the same seed with DomMap 1 it gives me a totally different picture.
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Actually, since dom2 reads the map bottom to top while dom1 does the reverse (for province numbers), one thing I did was reverse the output map.
Now, if the output of both dommap Versions don't look like mirror images of each other, then it's probably an effect of different random generators. I didn't change much in the map generator itself, only the .map output (and the maximum terrain size, but that was nothing)
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February 3rd, 2004, 01:12 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
Here's the latest update on the map-making project for those of you who are following this (yes, that includes you lurkers...I know you're out there ). I know it doesn't look like I've gotten very far, but it's painstaking work, and I'm a perfectionist (1600x1200 map and I push pixels...heh). Currently about 56 layers:
http://www.techno-mage.com/~targa/webmap.jpg
I've added "Giant Forest" with a stonehenge-type thingy in the upper-left. Not sure if I'm going to keep the winter forest up there or not. More mountains, province borders, shading, some green hills in the middle, "Crescent Woods" on the mid-right, a bunch of shading, etc.
Phil: Nope, they were totally different, so I guess something's changed in the generator.
Gandalf: Sweet! Did you check out the gallery? There's some potential in that prog.
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February 3rd, 2004, 01:40 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
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Gandalf: Sweet! Did you check out the gallery? There's some potential in that prog.
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One thing I liked is that you could make a map like we are using, save it, and then let it do its fancy realistic 3D view to it for making a fancy web-post. But unless I want to put up another linux box I wont be able to use it.
[ February 02, 2004, 23:40: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]
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February 3rd, 2004, 07:29 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
Just want to publicly encourage Targa on his map efforts. I'd really like to get my hands on a layered PSD with your icons. . . I've made a few maps but have given up because I can't get them looking right. Your file would be a big help.
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