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		| Zeldor said: I am absolutely sure that Eye Shield is not so great against SCs. You really need luck and it may take even 20-40 hits for other SC to lose just one eye. I had 1:1 fight, my Tartarian with Eye Shield against Arch Devil and he lost one eye after about 40 turns of battle.
 
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				April 24th, 2008, 09:40 PM
			
			
			
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 I think that the attack has to miss into the exact range that the eyeshield improves defence by. |  
	
		
	
	
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				April 24th, 2008, 09:40 PM
			
			
			
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 If there's no MR check then any (non-spider etc.) attacker would be blind on the second round.  That's easy to check if you're worried about it. |  
	
		
	
	
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				April 24th, 2008, 11:13 PM
			
			
			
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 What about Visions Foe - the blindness causing crossbow - does that have an MR check or just need to hit? 
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				April 25th, 2008, 01:54 AM
			
			
			
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				April 25th, 2008, 02:47 AM
			
			
			
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		| sum1lost said: I think that the attack has to miss into the exact range that the eyeshield improves defence by.
 
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		| mathusalem said: why do you think frost brand is far better than fire one ?
 
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 I fully agree with you Triqui about the effectiveness of brands. Strangely, I always have more water gems to spend than earth gems, not to speak about the fire ones.    |  
	
		
	
	
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 What do the brands actually do? From the description I'd assumed it was normal (or AP) damage to the unit actually hit, and then fire or cold affect to the whole area. I'd originally assumed this was a minor affect, like chance of catching on fire or freezing, but it's actually the main damage.
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 They use the weapon effects "small area fire", "small are frost" etc. I don't know how powerful those effects are. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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