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June 20th, 2010, 10:02 PM
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Re: Various questions
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I think this is a tough one:
- Will a mage casting transformation / crossbreeding get better chances at rares creature(s) if Lady of fortune (or firebird for that matter) was present in the same provinces.
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I did about 60 casts and had no discernable differenc.e
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 I feel bad that you had to do testing on my behalf. With that said thanks for the data, and that I'd happily do the data-gathering in the future on my own question if it was raised to me that no one had answer on hand 
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June 20th, 2010, 10:09 PM
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Re: Various questions
Hmmm could there also be a 3L cap limit for a given province? E.g. it was coded in that a province can go higher then 3L, much like how a summoner(20+) starspawn priest for the void gate was never forseen thus actually never summoning much as very high level summoner stat was never coded for.
I'll test a game with 2L + Lof, vs 2L, vs 1L + Lof + fb I think.
Edit: I just noticed your test setting using 3G3L. Does 3 growth scale actually impact crossbreed / transformation / void gate like the luck scale?
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June 20th, 2010, 11:52 PM
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Re: Various questions
Typo above, correction:
" It was never coded in that a province can go higher then +3 luck "
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June 21st, 2010, 12:04 AM
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Re: Various questions
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Hmmm could there also be a 3L cap limit for a given province? E.g. it was coded in that a province can go higher then 3L, much like how a summoner(20+) starspawn priest for the void gate was never forseen thus actually never summoning much as very high level summoner stat was never coded for.
I'll test a game with 2L + Lof, vs 2L, vs 1L + Lof + fb I think.
Edit: I just noticed your test setting using 3G3L. Does 3 growth scale actually impact crossbreed / transformation / void gate like the luck scale?
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The issue will be that your LoF will increase the luck in the province (I think). Therefore you will see an effect. Still worth doing.
I don't have empirical evidence on the growth - but yes it seemed to me that with Growth 3 Luck 3 I was getting one super, 3 improved and the remainder trash with crossbreeding.
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June 21st, 2010, 12:38 AM
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Re: Various questions
I'll do test games this weekend of these scenarios to add to your data:
0 neutral scales (LA R'yleth)
3 Luck (LA R'yleth)
3 Luck 3 Growth (LA R'yleth)
1 Luck (MA R'yleth)
1 Luck 3 growth (MA R'yleth)
1 Luck + Firebird (MA R'yleth)
1 Luck + LoF + Firebird (Any blood nation)
Spells to be tested are:
Advanced crossbreeding
Void gate summons, only summoner(3) will be used.
Questions to be tested:
-Void gate / crossbreed affected by luck / growth / Firebird/Lof?
-LA Ryleth non-cap spawns affected by luck or growth?
Thanks again for your help so far!
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June 21st, 2010, 08:12 AM
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Re: Various questions
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Originally Posted by Finalgenesis
I think this is a tough one:
- Will a mage casting transformation / crossbreeding get better chances at rares creature(s) if Lady of fortune (or firebird for that matter) was present in the same provinces.
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Are they an independent effect, or do they increase the local luck scale? Because i think its based on local luck scale.
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The Lady of Luck does not increase luck scale. She provides a separate bonus percentage to good events. Llamabeast's EGDM Firebird provides the same bonus, presumably, since it's copystatted. The Bogarusian firebird provides a small bonus to the same effect. I can say that with > 100 Bogarusian firebirds in a province, it did not seem to discernibly improve crossbreeding effects. However, terrain (apparently) seems to have an effect, and I would recommend casting it in mountains or wastes vs. plains. That could just be observer bias, though, since after I seemed to notice it, I did all my castings there.
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June 21st, 2010, 08:34 AM
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Re: Various questions
Interesting! That's really good stuff and Base on your observation together with CP's data, I think we can lay the LoF / Firebird effect on void gate / crossbreed to rest and conclude it has no effect in that regards.
That's gonna shave off 4 out of 7 scenarios I had to test
I now have 4 scenarios to test:
(LA R'yleth)
0 neutral scales
3 Luck
3 Luck 3 Growth
3 Luck 3 Growth 3 magic
All cross-breeding will be performed 50% in waste, 50% in farm lands.
I think we can say that luck affects void gate + cross breed. Now I will test whether growth and magic does as well!
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June 21st, 2010, 06:42 PM
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Re: Various questions
I did a lot of testing on terrain with transformation, and some testing on crossbreeding.
It clearly makes a difference on transformation. On crossbreeding I prefer swamps.
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June 21st, 2010, 08:20 PM
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Re: Various questions
Ok.. Some counter intuitive results.
With 350 odd casts, Order3/cold3 gave twice as many steller results as Turmoil3/heat3
The freak lord was also on the losing side of that equation.
There were no variations that I can ascribe to anything other than chance across the terrains of wood, waste, and mountain.
Also, I don't know if its documented in the manual.. but starving seems to increase province unrest....
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June 22nd, 2010, 03:23 AM
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Re: Various questions
Hm. How many are we talking in terms of raw numbers?
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