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View Poll Results: ANONYMOUS POLL - Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
Yes - Fair's fair, the board can't forbid a user AND profit from their past contributions. 15 37.50%
No - These mods & maps actually belong to Schrapnel Games, not the authors. 17 42.50%
Abstain - I don't want to be banned form the boards for choosing the wrong answer. 8 20.00%
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Old December 14th, 2010, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

Related to the thread, but not the current conversation:

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...0&#entry141893
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Old December 21st, 2010, 01:36 AM

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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

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Related to the thread, but not the current conversation:

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...0&#entry141893
Regardless of the rest of the discussion, I just want to point out that this post removes any doubt that the banned user Sombre at least would like his material removed from this forum. I'm only saying this to counter those who say that no banned members have expressed a desire to have their work removed, since at least one of them certainly has...

There's the law, and there's the right thing to do. As we all know, the law barely applies on the internet, in practice, despite what many governments and corporations would like to claim. With the internet being a de facto lawless place, rules and regulations are much less important than not being a dick. If you ban a guy, but keep his work, you're being a dick.

Just my two cents, of course. I half suspect somebody will try to paint me as a sockpuppet of some banned veteran, which is laughable considering how bad at this game I am...
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Old December 21st, 2010, 02:55 AM

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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

Right, but it would be very easy for someone to post the mods here. If his whole point is that he cannot maintain the mods, than that can be easily fixed by someone who frequents both boards. Or someone could post a link to the new forums with the updated mods.
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Old December 16th, 2010, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

Passive aggressive dickery is not nearly as clever as this poster thinks.
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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

Gents,

The question was "Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted," not "Must" or "Legally" or "Under threat of prosecution" etc, etc.

It's an ethical question.

I'm merely wondering if a company can ethically profit (forums are a sales tool, remember?) from the contributions made from those they've forbidden from participating.

Apologies for the flavor text around the poll options - perhaps they're a bit, er, dickery (sp?) - but I'm still curious to know the community's opinion, my own interpretation aside.
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Old December 18th, 2010, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

But even thats asked abit lopsided.
The answer would tend toward NO. That is IF the forbidding was purely the act of those who run the forum. How much of the forbidding can be chalked up to the actions of the people who got banned would tend to affect that.

Also... are you asking if the forum admins should themselves automatically delete the posts and products of everyone they ban? Wouldnt wiping out someone from the existence and history of the forum be even more heavy handed?

Or are you saying that the people who are banned should automatically demand that their posts and products be removed? That they should take such a banishment so heavily as to do that to their former peers? And I guess to avoid the profiting thing that they should abandon the game completely, not create anything else for it, and not recommend it.
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Old December 18th, 2010, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

Not sure what's so unclear about this question. I'll try again, in a different format:

If you were banned from this forum, would your like to have your copyrighted material removed from this forum?
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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

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Not sure what's so unclear about this question. I'll try again, in a different format:

If you were banned from this forum, would your like to have your copyrighted material removed from this forum?
That is not what you asked. Your "yes", "no" and "abstain" all have strings attached. You know why it is unclear because you made the thread just to troll.
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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

Now that's *completely* different question from the original one, and here I have an actual answer - no (if we omit the "copyrighted" part, that will again lead to definitions of copyright etc). I don't want the content created by me to be deleted in case of my permaban if it happen. I made it mostly for myself and for other people that are as obsessed with this game as me, in my free time; it had nothing to do with profiting me or the company. I want people to have access to my work if they need it and in no way I'm going to restrict them from it, company has nothing to do with it at all. Since these boards are their territory they have the right to delete it themselves of course, which will make me sad.
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Old December 18th, 2010, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?

That also creates an answer for me.
NO
At least I never have in the past. And Im fairly sure I wouldnt here. In fact, I find a subtle satisfaction in my posts and offers still creating thankyou's and comments on boards I can no longer answer on. Just create a webpage or a blog (or forum) saying you were booted from that forum and make all your comments there. Someone on the old forum will point there every time the question comes up. Much more satisfying than pissing off all your old peers by deleting the stuff.
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