MP: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. Game Over. Supplicants Triumph!

[Septimius Severus]

Originally Posted by ano

Septimius, please add 5h to the timer just for the case zegc-ben doesn't come in time. I really don't want my bid wasted and I need to go to bed now. Thanks.

Sorry, I was away from my comp/didn't get the message in time. I am usually on twice a day, but it is possible for me to miss something in between. Though most seemed OK with current schedule we may need to jump ahead to 48 hours prior to turn 20. Don't want to see Atlantis staling especially.

[zegc-ben]

I wont stale any more but for this time I was something like 5 minutes short : my Dom crashed the first time I tried to upload and when I retried it was already the next turn. Anyway this is my fault, I shouldn't have been so late.

[Numahr]

When I try to connect to upload my turn, the game says:

"connection failed
The dominion server or your connection to the internet might be down. Also make sure you entered the correct ip-adress (70.36.184.129) and port number number (10333)"

I'll try again later...

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Squirrelloid

Gorgons are better than every other pretender option.

Nah, I don't agree. Give mictlan the choice of a gorgon or an oracle and he'll still go oracle.

Prince of Death, Immortal Oracle, Master Druid for Niefle in CBM.

Don't get me wrong - I like the gorgon - but its not a once size fits all.

[Gandalf Parker]

I still cant prefer Gorgon for EA or MA Pangaea even though its often recomended. Id much rather play Carrion Dragon or Lord of the Wild (depending on which Pangaea strategy Im going with)

[Septimius Severus]

Though a great expander vs. indies, the Gorgon is also rather fragile. So a shield or other equipment I believe is recommended early on.

Well, the AI seems to be tearing us (Children of Crom) a new butthole.

Gandalf, I can honestly say this is the most challenging AI I have ever played against in Dom3. You've done your job well, probably too well.

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Nah, I don't agree. Give mictlan the choice of a gorgon or an oracle and he'll still go oracle.

Prince of Death, Immortal Oracle, Master Druid for Niefle in CBM.

Don't get me wrong - I like the gorgon - but its not a once size fits all.

I did mean that in the context (from the post I was responding to) of those nations who had access to the Gorgon.

And obviously Gorgon is no longer as good in CBM, since he's 150 points instead of 50 points! The problem with the Gorgon at 50pts is you can have an awake SC, an E9N4 bless, and decent scales all at the same time.

[ano]

And obviously Gorgon is no longer as good in CBM

Could resist when saw this... Yeah, nerfing is the point of "balancing" - things which are good and powerful are called imba, then nerfed then become worthless and then another "imba" is found. This process is endless - cutting off the functionality instead of adding new one. This is a well known way of "balancing", already seen in many games which generally leads nowhere. In the end you will have 2 equal troops and 2 equal commanders - an ideally balanced game.

[Gandalf Parker]

I refer to that as "chess balance". Ending up with two perfectly matched nations wearing different colors. Many strategy games go with that and I wont knock it but I tend not to prefer it.

As far as imba and nerf Ive seen the same in online worlds which Ive been involved with since their birth (text mode before Internet existed). The adders, and the subtractors. Adders tend to be players who recently gained editing access. Subtractors tend to be old timers who know that all-adding is a never ending climb which is good but they can turn cynical. The best editing is done by a group which is willing (a rare event) to not select based on their own preference for add or subtract but to allow both equal reign. Its still never-ending but the alternative is stagnation.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

Well, the AI seems to be tearing us (Children of Crom) a new butthole.

Gandalf, I can honestly say this is the most challenging AI I have ever played against in Dom3. You've done your job well, probably too well.

Thats nice to know.
I take it that instructions of "Newbies and Vets III with level 10 AI no-holds-barred" is going to be slightly modified?
If so, no problem. Im thinking along the lines of a separate level 10 game.