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Old October 18th, 2005, 06:48 AM
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- a nation based on arabic myths/culture. Non-undead ghoul shapeshifters, 4 kinds of genies (Djinni, Marid, Efreet, Dao), scimitars, yantchars (spelling differs - I mean hardcore, fanatical infantry made of captured&brainwashed infidels), lots of (mostly light) cavalry. I'm sure someone knows the subject better than me.

- a slavic nation (100% pagan). If it won't come with Dom3, I will do my best to mod such a nation. The main problem is that slavic/pagan culture isn't described in many records, and the Church tried its best to erase it. Still, lots of info can be found. Slavic people often worshipped warlike gods (like Svarog or Perun - althrough it's not sure if Svarog was a god of his own or merely a prefix of older god Rod. In that case Svarog Rod would mean "mighties Rod" or similar). Slavic people were known to ocassionaly join raiding parties with vikings. There was a widespread belief in supernatural entities, you can even say demonology. There was lots of minor supernatural beings, many of them dangerous).
Without too much research I can say that army would be based around teams/parties of 15-20 or so people. This means not-so-great commanders.

As far as magic goes, witches were supposed to have great knowledge of charms, curses, herbalism, shapeshifting, divination, demonic pacts, and healing. Witches were often feared, but also respected, mainly because they were able to heal the sick. Translating to Dominions language - a bit of Astral magic, nature/earth, possibly Blood.

One of national heroes would have to be Baba Yaga. Capitol magic sites could include Lysa Gora (Bald Mountain), a place where witches were supposed to gather ocassionaly and meet devils (djabel), demons etc. But I don't think limiting witches to capitol would fit very well - they often lived in alone in the woods.
Nation-specific spells could be some summonings - there were dozens of demonic beings to be afraid of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_mythology
So, there is a potential.
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Hey Kristoffer, how many new nations there will be? Any chance of seeing that Kalevala based nation?
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Slavic myth is interesting, but I havn't done any research on the matter (not since an ars magica campaign a couple of years ago). So there will not be a slavic nation in dom3 at release, but I have considered adding one as a patch or mod later on.

The number of nations is tricky. Themes are reworked and put into the three ages. Niefelheim becomes Jotunheim in the middle era and is Utgård in the late era. Some nations do not exist in some eras etc. What earlier was a theme is now considered a nation in its own right which makes modding much easier. Thus I do not know exactly how may nations there will be, but about 60 is probably right. Entirely new ones (with early and late versions excluded) there are perhaps ten new ones. Sauromatia is very different from Pythium, but could be considered an early version. They do have Hydras, but Witch Kings are very different from Arch theurgs. Likewise Yomi is quite different from the later form Shinuyama and the last "nipponese" nation Jomon. The semblances between early middle and late Caelum are stronger.

So your question is a bit hard to answer. There will be about 60 nations but many of these are themes and variations that you will recognize from dom2.

Kalevala is on my own wishlist. It will probably not be in the first release of dom3, but has high priority after I'm finished with the current intended nations.
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Slavic myth is interesting, but I havn't done any research on the matter (not since an ars magica campaign a couple of years ago). So there will not be a slavic nation in dom3 at release, but I have considered adding one as a patch or mod later on.

The number of nations is tricky. Themes are reworked and put into the three ages. Niefelheim becomes Jotunheim in the middle era and is Utgård in the late era. Some nations do not exist in some eras etc. What earlier was a theme is now considered a nation in its own right which makes modding much easier. Thus I do not know exactly how may nations there will be, but about 60 is probably right. Entirely new ones (with early and late versions excluded) there are perhaps ten new ones. Sauromatia is very different from Pythium, but could be considered an early version. They do have Hydras, but Witch Kings are very different from Arch theurgs. Likewise Yomi is quite different from the later form Shinuyama and the last "nipponese" nation Jomon. The semblances between early middle and late Caelum are stronger.

So your question is a bit hard to answer. There will be about 60 nations but many of these are themes and variations that you will recognize from dom2.

Kalevala is on my own wishlist. It will probably not be in the first release of dom3, but has high priority after I'm finished with the current intended nations.
Hot damn! That's the biggest news in a long time, and I'm practically salivating already.

*rubs hands with glee*

The only thing that makes me cringe is the prospect of having to produce a complete Dom3 DB for units, weapons, armor and other stuff...

*runs screaming into the night*

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About music...

Is there any chance that Dom2 music will be transfered to Dominions3 ?

Is there any chance there will be some new music ?
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If yes, I have a suggestion, but I have no slightest if it can work. There's a polish folk/celtic/etc music band that I like a lot. Perhaps you could reach some kind of agreement with them ? They aren't the most commercial band out there, they play because they like to. Amateurs in strictest (original) meaning.

http://free.art.pl/openfolk/index.html

Note: I'm not in any way related to Open Folk. I just like their music. I have no idea if they'd agree to provide a piece or two for Dominions3 game. I have no idea if (or how much) they would charge.
I don't even have any idea if they check their mailbox. But at least I can tell they understand english, because they travel abroad from time to time and sometimes sing in english.
It may be worth trying. You can check out 4 of their music pieces on their website. Unfortunatelly, they didn't publish my favourite piece there. ( Czarownica - witch)
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Falsobordone and Erik Ask-Uppmark's and Anna Rynefors' other musical project "Drom" will be the main contributors. So you will get new music you will recognize.
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Kristoffer O said:So your question is a bit hard to answer. There will be about 60 nations but many of these are themes and variations that you will recognize from dom2.

Kalevala is on my own wishlist. It will probably not be in the first release of dom3, but has high priority after I'm finished with the current intended nations.
That's quite a number...!
Well, that should keep us occupied for a while.

Nice to hear that Kalevala is in your own wishlist. That certainly is a good birthday gift.

Well, keep up the good work.
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Kristoffer, is your avatar taken from dom-III? -Is it by anyway a new angel or a new image for the harbringer?

I read somewhere that in Dom-III angels will be more powerful. I sure hope they would be.
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Kristoffer, is your avatar taken from dom-III? -Is it by anyway a new angel or a new image for the harbringer?

I read somewhere that in Dom-III angels will be more powerful. I sure hope they would be.
I think it is Dom III Harbringer.
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