Ermor Themes

[quantum_mechani]

Alneyan said:
Stealth priests still have to "uncloak" to preach however

No, they can preach while remaining hidden.

[Reverend Zombie]

Alneyan said:
Inquisitors aren't stealthy, unless I am grossly mistaken. Stealth priests still have to "uncloak" to preach however, so you will need to spend one turn in the province, and pray the Nine that the hordes aren't going to attack you (that sounds unlikely, if they have seen your lovely Inquisitors).

Inquisitors no, but the monk(?) is. I have used them to stealth preach and never had to uncloak them, however: sneaking in and starting to preach worked just fine.

[Turin]

Jurri said:
The disease cloud won't affect the units if they have their mirror images intact, right? At least other AoE effects won't, to my knowledge.

Well I haven´t checked that, might very well be. But another problem for the sacred f9 troops is that you won´t have many compared to ermor and without an e9 blessing, your troops will simply succumb to fatigue when they try to wade through hundreds of spirits/shadows. Especially when the spectators come out and start skeleton spamming. If you go for f9/e9 you won´t have enough points for a good economy and high dominion.

As for preaching out ermor, the problem is that SGermor spends all his money on temples and has no upkeep to pay for his troops, so the actual income is not that low. Even with no fire sites I had an income of ~200/turn in the second game vs qm. That means you have to have a starting dominion of 10 and build a temple every turn to win the dominion war vs ermor. If you want to build mages this won´t be possible.

Stealth preaching won´t be possible vs ermor, because usually border provinces get patrolled by one freespawn leader with his 75 troops.

[Alneyan]

Of course stealth-preaching is fine. I don't know what I was on when I wrote it wouldn't work, as I make use of that more than once in a while. I deserve a good ol' slapping.

Thank you both for setting the record straigth.

[spirokeat]

My Bad,

Its the friars that are stealthy. The inquisitors are just double priest level against enemy dominion. So you would have to use them to supress incroaching enemy dom.

I've not used Mari so not sure how stealthy units and preach works to be honest.

I'm working on the assumption of course that your priest level dictates the effectiveness of your preach and so all things being equal (temple etc) then you would have an adverse effect on an enemy dominion should you have the higher priest.

Anyone have any idea of how effective blood sacrifice is in comparison to normal preach >?

Spiro

[shovah]

how about arco sceptics with stone idols and winged shoes??

[Jurri]

Hey, Alneyan, those kamikaze sorcerors trump everything! Undead included.

Turin, what turn will you have 100 spirits? What about 200 or 300? Do the fire-blessed Vans or centaurs get a magical repel too, or is it only functional when attacking? I've almost convinced myself that I should duel you, if only to see what sort of tactics you exactly use (you guys conveniently not saving any turn files ).

I think every slave sacrificed counts as a single temple-check; that is, depending on your starting dominion you may or may not increase dominion in the province. So, in effect saccing 3 slaves will mean the equivalent of 3 temples' dominion push. If I remember it right.

[spirokeat]

Why winged shoes ?

Im wondering what the effect on the dominion calculation of stone idols in conjunction with two preaches would be.

How is dominion calculated. there would appear to be a few ways to add to it....pretender spread, prophet spread, temple spread, preach spread, direct preach. Troop spread (juggernaught)

Then you have stone idols and that demon lord who makes people lose faith.

Can their be only a single increase via personal spread...so for example a pretender spread would override a prohpet spread or will they stack ?

Spiro

[Turin]

hmm I just did a quick count and on turn 15 I had ~ 300 troops in the first game vs qm.

In the second game I have on turn 26 ~650 troops . Now I guess qm killed certainly more than 400 of mine, so about 1k troops by turn 25.

[shovah]

spirokeat said:
Why winged shoes ?

Im wondering what the effect on the dominion calculation of stone idols in conjunction with two preaches would be.

How is dominion calculated. there would appear to be a few ways to add to it....pretender spread, prophet spread, temple spread, preach spread, direct preach. Troop spread (juggernaught)

Then you have stone idols and that demon lord who makes people lose faith.

Can their be only a single increase via personal spread...so for example a pretender spread would override a prohpet spread or will they stack ?

Spiro

because the shoes let them get where they are needed quickly