(OT) Some advice for me / My Depression Thread / Thanks forumers

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Taera:
im thinking. im yet to figure out a way for myself.

According to a proffesional standing close to me.. You are hitting the right point here.
It's actually you who have to :

a. Define the problem, what it actually is.
-Is it that you have no motivation, then why?
-Is it that you are afraid to be alone, then why?
-Is it that you are afraid of rejection, then why?
-Is it that you don't want to assert yourself (please disease)?
etc...

b, Find a solution.
- What can you do to oppose your problem?
- What is feasible, what do you think is reasonable achivable?

c. Set goals, take it step by step but set goals and ACHIVE them.
-If you set a goal, for example; ask the first person on the classlist today what he/she is going to do this weekend and if possible ask if I can tag along, if not next day ask next person on class list... I'll start this tomorrow!
Then do it.
Then asses it, did it give anything positive? Did it improve my mood? Should I do it again?

(This is my interpretation of what my wife has said while cooking as I was talking to her then, I might have misunderstood something or misinterpreted but I belive in what I've written anyway).

Good luck in solving this yourself (I don't mean to be mean, but YOU are the only one who can help yourself, even if it is asking others for help. Then it is you who are doing something, i e asking for help.
But you need to define the problem better first before you can solve it.)

[ May 27, 2003, 23:07: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Taera]

Dogscoff: LOL, i think CALM is about the same thing for us Canadians here as SFA is. boring as hell, too.

Loser and TerranC, i view nicotine, alcohol, caffeine and worse things as easy answers with a possible bad outcome. I have never smoked, never drank too much, never wanted to touch any drugs at all. i know its not what you're getting at but its one of the few things i've set for myself, i will not be using anything to help myself if it is of stim type or to build courage or to get away from troubles. While i might be missing some experiences this has built some good qualities in me.

tbontop: thanks, and you can not worry there - im rarely taking advice as granted, im soaking ideas and advices and after processing them i use those that are good.
as for the right path, to be frank, this is the first time i have stumbled upon something too strong for me to simply overcome. i have identified the path for myself several years ago and somewhat effectively dealed with lesser problems. advice helps though.

tesco: wont help, i dont have the time for it. now its school, on summer it'll be work (i want to get some money for myself) and summer school. then its university. but a good idea

Ruatha: i have given a very throughout thinking for the problems and their causes. i have found many causes all along my lifetime. i dont know did it help me, but i know where things have come from. I am having a problem though with defining exactly what the solution is, and the biggest problem of all is achieving my goals. its another problem im trying to overcome.

[ May 28, 2003, 02:54: Message edited by: Taera ]

[Loser]

Originally posted by TerranC:
Drink Red Bull. No, seriously. Drink some kind of energy drink; it'll give you that itchy energy that you just wanna get rid of.

A stimulant is a stimulant. Caffeine, Nicotine, Ephedrine, Methamphetamine, whatever. Humanity needs to be more careful with these things. Yes, some of them are worse than others, some more addictive, more likely to make your heart stop, more likely to cause cancer, but ain't a one of them good for you.

That said, I'm currently using a stimulant nasal spray (one of those Generic Afrin types you can't use for more than three consecutive days) because it's cheap, it works (nose clear, breathing fine), and the A-FRICKIN'-LERT side effect is a help on this stupid shift. Use them? Fine, sure. But use them carefully.

One thing most people aren't aware of is that grapefruit juice changes the way just about any chemical interacts with the body. Some drugs get their primary effect strengthened, some weakened, some have a side effect blown way out of proportion. This was mentioned briefly in popular media about three years ago when doctors began to study whether drinking grapefruit juice was causing certain seniors to have adverse reactions to their medication (and they take so much, you know). It's not the vitamin C (which I'm sure one-out-of-three people reading this are thinking), it's something else.

In the case of most stimulants, grapefruit juice will lengthen the term of noticeable effect and also decrease the degree to which your body adjusts to the chemical. This is the case for all four stims I mentioned above. In this usage, sweetened grapefruit juice is just watering down the active ingredient: more bitter is more better.

If you are going to use stims, drink some grapefruit juice about ten minutes beforehand. If you want a nice mellow, constant stim don't touch caffeine. Go for nicotine patches. Buy the biggest ones possible and cut them into quarters. But be careful, because you will get addicted. (Never ever smoke while wearing the patch, not only will it put more nicotine in your system that you will like, but it will ruin the 'quit' potential of the patch.)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

i'm going to give some faith based advice skip if you will be offended.

pray, to our heavenly father, thank HIM for all you have first, say what you want, what you feel, what you need. say what you feel you should say, and then thank HIM for HIS help and answers. end, as it says in the bible, in the name of JESUS CHRIST, amen. then, wait and have faith for an answer. and pray persistantly, to show your faith.

now that i've made all the athiests uncomfortable, i gotta go. my craft dinner's getting cold.
that should clear it up, fyron

[ May 28, 2003, 08:41: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Fyron]

Why do you assume that atheists would be uncomfortable? Most atheists I have ever met or heard of were tolerant of other people's beliefs. It is generally the extremely religious that are the intolerant ones (except for those few extremely anti-religious, but they are just as bad as the extremely religious).

[narf poit chez BOOM]

or, if it doesn't(look at my Last post, i edited it), i don't think that. but, i know i at least, am a little uncomfortable with strong shows of emotion. i think you rate uncomfortable higher than i do. i would rate it from a minor irritant to miner annoying. but lets not start that again.

[ May 28, 2003, 09:13: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Loser]

Originally posted by Taera:
I have never smoked, never drank too much, never wanted to touch any drugs at all.

This is a good thing. Stay away from them forever if you can. I honestly believe we would, individually, be better off without them. But I do hope you are aware of just how much caffeine intrudes on your everyday, commercial, Canadian life.

Today's Fun Auto-prescription Fun Tip from Dr. Wally

For a good time, try aggressively cutting caffeine out of your life for a month. This should include medications and over-the-counter drugs that include caffeine (such as Excedrin), as well as soft drinks and 'diet' pills.

Then, when you're good and clean and have noticed how much better you sleep at night, drink one cup of coffee at ten o'clock on a Saturday night. Do no sip this coffee, rather lower it to room temperature and consume it all at once: "slam it", as the kids say these days.

Eight hours later, when the day-star comes to point out your failure to follow the Normal People Sleeping Rules, compose some poetry.

The advice of Dr. Wally is not meant to be taken seriously: he is not real, and therefore not a real doctor.

[dogscoff]

I can vouch for that. I never drink tea or coffe, and rarely drink colas/ soft drinks. True story:

As a result I am something of a caffeine lightweight.

A few years ago it was trendy to drink red bull & vodka, and some friends and I went out and drank many of these. Many many. In a few hours I had the equivalent of about 12 strong cups of coffee (stimulant), with an equivalent quantity of vodka (relaxant) mixed in. I got home around 4am and went straight to sleep, the two drugs more or less balancing one another out.

My body began processing all the crap I had put in it and worked it's way through the vodka pretty efficiently, leaving only the caffeine.

Even though I was exhasuted from the previous night I was awake by 7 O'clock and cooking dinner by 8am. I was sweating and twitching involuntarily until about midday.

Caffiene bad.

[ May 28, 2003, 14:08: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[Taera]

to respond to ammount of caffeine in my daily life ill first point out again that im not a native canadian, not even american - north european, russian.

my input of caffeine consists of about a liter of cola drink (whatever brand) and about one cup of coffee every three days. i drink more coffee on weekends simply because i enjoy the strong taste. luckily enough im also not strongly affected by caffeine as i often drink my coffee shortly before going to sleep and it never prevented me from falling asleep normally.

[Taera]

im just thinking, had anyone here else experienced that - when you dont know what to talk to people about? thats a problem i've been having for several years now, desperately trying to find a way around it