how do damage multipliers work?

[Yossar]

Huzurdaddi said:
So the only SC's that I know of that are not either magical or undead/demon are:

Firbolgs
Nifel Jarls

and ... uhm I guess that's it. Wowzie.

Maybe a golem, but his attack and defense aren't very good.

[Cainehill]

Huzurdaddi said:
So the only SC's that I know of that are not either magical or undead/demon are:

Firbolgs
Nifel Jarls

and ... uhm I guess that's it. Wowzie.

I'm not sure what your point is? Do you think that non-magical units should be Super Combatants? Militia maybe, or heavy infantry? Peasants?

And actually, those aren't the only ones. Tarrasques, GoR'd, are neither magic nor undead/demon.

But again - given the game doesn't have USMC units or commanders, I don't see many things that should be SCs that wouldn't be magical, undead, unholy, or unreasonable (ie, horrors and such).

And yet, there _are_ another couple of SCs that are national troops. Well, definately as good as Firbolgs, except maybe on leadership. Vanheim's top leaders, the Tuatha, probably some of Pangeaea's mages, and I think some of the water race mages are capable of SCing. (Note : Not being top notch SCs, but there's only about 10 ways to get a top notch SCc, and only 4 or 5 are commonly used, I think.)

[Arralen]

Troll Kings, Spectral Mages, Black Servants, Shambler Chiefs ..
Ok, the Last ones only make for Pocket-BBs,sorry, meant -SCs, but they're cheap an easy to get.

[Taqwus]

Regarding the AQ being fatigued versus wights et al, the most obvious suspect to me would be the possibility of the AQ not having cold resist >= 100% and therefore being affected by the chill.

[Boron]

Huzurdaddi said:
So the only SC's that I know of that are not either magical or undead/demon are:

Firbolgs
Nifel Jarls

and ... uhm I guess that's it. Wowzie.

Hm this makes the Niefel jarls very special . And you can improve them even more by a lvl 9/10 blessing .

Lategame there is one more impressive SC which is neither magical nor undead/demon : Wished natarajas


At least vs magical beeing there are not so many brutal things as against undeads like wither bones etc. .
But a Moonblade is damn cheap and 11 damage , x2 vs magical beeings so almost as brutal as a Flamebeau against demons


Hmmmm when you use Niefel Jarls with a nature 9/10 bless then they heal and as a side effect your pretender can summon fairy queens to heal their afflictions .

Deccan if you want to you could test Niefel Jarls vs. Banelords , Airqueens and Ice devils . Would be very interesting i think since the Niefel Jarl can cast quickness + BoW too to improve his abilities even further .

Hm the Niefel Jarl needs no quickness , will have improved stats by one lvl 9 blessing and is available from turn 1 on and has all slots available .
Base attack / def of 12 but +1/coldlevel so in cold 3 base att/def of 15/15 and 100% CR + chillaura .
Extremely frightening .

[Ironhawk]

Boron said:
At least vs magical beeing there are not so many brutal things as against undeads like wither bones etc. .
But a Moonblade is damn cheap and 11 damage , x2 vs magical beeings so almost as brutal as a Flamebeau against demons

Dont forget about the Elfbane that is an instant kill vs magical beings. MR negates but still its cheap and potentially deadly.

[alexti]

Taqwus said:
Regarding the AQ being fatigued versus wights et al, the most obvious suspect to me would be the possibility of the AQ not having cold resist >= 100% and therefore being affected by the chill.

Yep, I think that's what happened.