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Old April 19th, 2008, 09:33 PM
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And just for your infomation, right after I killed the waterqueen, there happened to be a lab on that province. I teleported him again and killed his earth king. THAT WAS SWEET VICTORY! However, the mage died a turn after since the enemy casted that spell which summons earth assassins.

It's going to take at least 100 fire gems to replace him.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 09:46 PM
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You know what, lemme make another post:

This was kind of like a riddle. I did infact give you enough information. Any spell and any item, but no army setup! Thus, what would come to mind is stuff like mindhunt. However, the best solution in my opinion is teleport and cast Living Flames. This strategy can also be used for Living Water, Living Clouds, and Living Earth. However, the thing about the flames it that the surrounding heat of fire elementals creates fatigue. No other elemental has a fatiguing aura... does ice elementals have cold aura?

Soo... yeah. But I actually didn't have access to everything. I didn't have blood magic, I couldn't cast ridiculous spells like wish. There's probably a few other things I couldn't have done.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 09:47 PM
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But my strategy was the only way to gaurantee killing the water queen in my current situation.

Only way?? I don't know your entire list of mages, summons, items, and research levels... but your situation definitely has more than the one way which worked.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 09:52 PM
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But my strategy was the only way to gaurantee killing the water queen in my current situation.

Only way?? I don't know your entire list of mages, summons, items, and research levels... but your situation definitely has more than the one way which worked.
Most of the ideas that were posted had to do with luck, such as getting past a high magic resistance and being able to hit the queen multiple times during battle with a low-precision spell like pillar of fire and gift of the heavens. Of course, gift of the heavens would only require one hit, but I couldn't catch her with a "gift of the heavens" caster. Not to say these aren't good ideas. I think in most situations, people could gather an army. I guess I should have mentioned that the queen would only go in my allie's territories. My allie had very little access to magic other than nature and earth. In my opinion though, you didn't need to know that information. All you needed to know was that I had access to any spell and any item. (except wish!)

Now, don't take this in the wrong way, I'm just discussing this stuff for fun. I don't expect to have everyone agree with everything I say.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 10:18 PM
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At first it only had 20 MG resistance... not very difficult with the rune sceptre, eye void and/or spell focus items. The eye void and spell focus can be cheaply passed around to multiple mages for either soul slay, enslave mind, charm, etc., . If I see resistance of only 20 on a SC... I'm thinking Capture and Control it's mine... usually via charm.
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Later its MG resistance was increased with the suit of armor yet this made it really slow. This armor is more ideal for mounted commanders. If I owned the Queen I would not have her traveling solo, she would be with a team of mage supporters and scout decoys.

With her being so slow on the battlefield the idea of stealing control would still be viable in my book. The fire elementals was a good way to take her out. I hope you brought some low level air mages to pickup some of those items.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 11:04 PM
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You know what, the water queen was alive for so long with that medusa shield. I didn't want to take any risk of routing or other unseen misfortune so I only teleported in a single mage. Also, I was doing other things and I didn't have available another mage with teleport. However, when I teleported him in to kill the earth king with the same technique, I DID teleport in a second mage to pickup items. Guess what? He got nothing from the king. He did have a unique item on him too, and was fully equipped. That was lame. Maybe the chance of picking up an item increases if you are NEAR the enemy units.

Well, to let you know, the enemy has resummoned the queen and now has a small army with her. It doesn't matter though, my allie has the medusa shield on a unit that is more powerful than the water queen could ever be. lol I'll post a screenshot soon. Hint: It has about 80 regeneration and quickness.
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Because he didn't have 10 mages to go catch her with.

This kind of thread comes up a fair bit. Someone asks for suggestions/advice then violently rejects them all on the grounds that they aren't taking into account information which was never given to start with.

It's why I stick to answering direct questions rather than trying to work out what someone actually wants when it isn't clear.
Seriously, retarded thread is retarded.

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Old April 20th, 2008, 01:10 AM
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Jazzepi, no one is forcing you to read or respond to retarted threads.
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As long as forum rules are followed, all threads and comments are welcome. There's usually some type of info that comes out of them that may be of use or interest to players.
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