Question about Ukraine OOB...

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by Mustang

It's illogical that the main gun would be stabilized but not a missile launch.

TOW has always been "Stop to raise launcher, fire and guide missiles until impact" since 1981. I know they've talked about wireless TOW as an enhancement; but the big bugaboo has been retaining compatibility with existing BFV launchers and FCS.

In any case full stabilization is a SA feature and Ukraine doesn't have it, hence the game is incorrect.

Bradley has always had stabilization for the chaingun since 1981

[MarkSheppard]

Apropos of the earlier debate; the Bradley has been absolutely mogging places...there's tons of footage of two Bradleys engaging a T-90M and coming out the victor.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

It looks like a smaller caliber version of the "RAK-SA-12 rocket launchers in caliber 128mm of Croatian manufacture." which the Ukrainians also already have.

The trailer mount from yours looks the same as it vice the smaller tubes rocket tubes (Possibly 70mm or 100mm) in comparison the RAK-SA-12 128mm.
https://special-ops.org/128mm-rak-12-mlrs-croatia/
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...mlrs-6575.html
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...ones-4637.html

Regards,
Pat

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

Apropos of the earlier debate; the Bradley has been absolutely mogging places...there's tons of footage of two Bradleys engaging a T-90M and coming out the victor.

New footage of it showing 25mm effect on that T-90M

https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/sta...50720374256047

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Mustang

I'm fine with being banned. It's not my opinion. There's multiple factual errors here. Era was never used in Iraq. The bradleys in Ukraine have no stabilizer. And so on. Ban me.

Request granted

[Karagin]

So the supply train issue comes back to haunt future fighting...who would have thought that...oh wait, everyone who is in combat support who point it out in every AAR and get ignored.

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by Karagin

So the supply train issue comes back to haunt future fighting...who would have thought that...oh wait, everyone who is in combat support who point it out in every AAR and get ignored.

They do have CSS - here have two M88s towing a Leopard 2 out of the battlefield.

https://twitter.com/CasualArtyFan/st...05178421092448

It's just...more tanks and other AFV than CSS to recover them. The usual.

[Karagin]

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

They do have CSS - here have two M88s towing a Leopard 2 out of the battlefield.

https://twitter.com/CasualArtyFan/st...05178421092448

It's just...more tanks and other AFV than CSS to recover them. The usual.

You missed the point, but cool video.

[MarkSheppard]

So...the Russians recently restarted tank gas turbine engine production after...30 years.

That's a big deal, because they don't have a lot of machine tools and they already have the V92 Diesel (T-90) and the weird Diesel for the T-14 in production.

So why restart tank GTEs after 30 years?

Because the T-80 fleet has been mostly extinguished in this war, it can't be about maintaining the T-80 fleet.

I think it's because the weight of all the addons on the T-90 (massive ERA addons, the cope cage anti drone stuff) over the decades, and the need for mobility and reliable cold weather start/performance has forced this upon the Russian Armed Forces.

They need 1500 HP to maintain a mobility advantage over the AFU's increasingly more mobile western tanks; and the V92 Diesel taps out at around 1150 HP; and the T-14 Opposed Piston Diesel simply doesn't work.

Soo....gas turbines by default win.

[MarkSheppard]

Abrams is "now in Ukraine" per Zelenskyy, and the US is now talking about an additional 30 to be delivered on top of the initial increment of 30...