Bug: Bug Thread: Discussion

[Edi]

Actuarian said:
Attentive Statue description: It should be standing a vigil, not standing a vigour.

RamsHead said:
I noticed that the Jotun Wolf form of the transforming Niefelheim mages retains the size 4 that the other forms have.

WHY are these in the bug thread?

The first instance is not a bug, but a typo. We have a thread for those, though it has dropped from the first page.

I have asked before to have that thread stickied, and it was precisely to avoid having this thread cluttered up anymore than it already is.

The second bit is NOT a bug. A human skinshifter turns into a human-sized werewolf, so why the hell would a giant skinshifter or giant mage with an alternate werewolf form turn into anything other than a giant-sized werewolf?

Please, THINK before you post.

Edi

[Jurri]

Umm, you do know that the Niefel mages have three forms, do you? (Indeed, the wolf-form should probably be the same size as a dire wolf, nice catch!)

Also, why should anyone be aware of the existence of your typo-thread? This bug-thread can certainly accommodate any and all stuff including typos as long as it has no moderation or other means of culling useless posts like this one and the one I'm responding to.

So... Take a chill pill, won't ya?

[Taqwus]

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img] AE Ermor: Landlubber Censors should not be spawned underwater.

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img] Changing forge orders: The routine that checks whether you have the gems to build an item does not take into account the resources that you wouldn't be using forging your previous choice.

Possible [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img], definite weirdness Dead mercenary Hall-of-Famers returned as mummies retain mercenary behavior in terms of item stickiness.

[NTJedi]

Taqwus said:
Possible [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img], definite weirdness Dead mercenary Hall-of-Famers returned as mummies retain mercenary behavior in terms of item stickiness.

That's not the only trait they maintain... such as retreating from the battlefield will kill them.
Another trait they maintain is that you cannot give them troops.

[Jack_Trowell]

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img] the war shamblers for a mercenary group are described as having a shark skin armor (and the sprite seems inded to wear something), but the War shamblers have no armor.

[Wish]

bug: when you wish for a lady of fortune, you get the dom 2 fair skinned version instead of the dom 3 blue skinned version.

[Edi]

That's probably because there is more than one monster with the same name and it picks the one with the lowest ID number from the list. The same thing used to happen with assigning magic sites by name to a map in Dom2 so that you could only assign the Fire Academy of High Magics, never Air, Water or Earth.

Just try wishing for Heavy Infantry or Infantry of Ulm or Light Infantry and I'm certain that you're going to get #38 for HI, #28 for LI and #67 for IoU, instead of #40, #29 or #71 respectively.

So it's not a bug per se. The game just doesn't know which one of the different options you want, so it provides the first one that fits the name.

Now, wishing for "monster <id#>" might work, but somebody needs to test it first...

Edi

[Wish]

I guess what I meant was, why is the old version still in the game? does any nation have the option of selecting lady of fortune, but in her anglo-saxon version?

[Edi]

No, it's not available. The Dom2 Lady is one of the obsoleted units, very much like the old legionnaires and Old Standard, which are the DomPPP era Pythium units. They are still in the game and can be put into map files as monsters guarding some province, but not available for recruitment or through events. Easier to just leave them than to hunt the individual units down and eliminate them from the list, I guess, plus that way nothing gets broken.

Besides, anybody wanting to wish a misfortune prevention unit would be better off with a Great Seer of the Deeps. 75% chance of preventing any given bad event in the province he is in is nothing to sneeze at...

Don't worry, it'll be in the DB, though. They all will. As of now, units 0-302 are all done as is everything that can be recruited or assigned as a pretender and it's just a few hundred more summons, heroes etc. to go and it'll be ready.

I'm also going to have a metric crap-ton of bugs, typos and other assorted things to list after I'm done...

Edi

[Ewierl]

Despite the occasional between-turn hint, Man's temples (both MA and LA) cost the full 400g.