APC Development and related topics.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Well under the economic circumstances most militarises are having to operate under (Except for countries like Brazil, India, China and Russia that are seeing huge increases in defence spending compared to GDP.) immense pressure to do more with less, more with older systems (Recapitalization/RESET.) and rethinking of ongoing and future products. The following cover the above.

1. UK WARRIOR Program moves on as the upgrade to the CT 40mm is funded. The picture shows the WARRIOR with the CT 40mm mounted and with the armor upgrades already done as well. It should be noted that the armor upgrade as shown is all ready being used by the WARRIOR's in theatre in Afghanistan.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/novem...n_0411111.html

2. The USA is putting the pressure on the competitors in the GCV Program to get it right and within the program costs as it gets ready to look at existing improved programs from outside the U.S. as alternatives spending $47 million dollars to research it. Again the pictures show the new and upgraded versions of the two leading alternatives choices.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/novem...m_0511111.html

I don't know if the WARRIOR needs an armor upgrade for the game currently or not I just haven't had the chance to check.

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

I don't know if the WARRIOR needs an armor upgrade for the game currently or not I just haven't had the chance to check.

Regards,
Pat

Already covered as is the 40mm version I just need to upgrade the turret Icon and the photo

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

For those of us trying to maintain equipment status, the job is about to get tougher, keeping track of the "fire sale" on all armor type units and where they're going. Here's the latest reported financial victim selling armor to balance their budget.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rope&Itemid=57

2. Austria doing the the same, the SAURERS will phased out in 2014.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rope&Itemid=57

3. Columbia is looking for an 8x8 APC, could they become the first export customer for Sinapores TERREX? We should have a better picture of this by the fall.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=58

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

Yeah, call back in three years and I'll jump right on it.........

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

Yeah, call back in three years and I'll jump right on it.........

Deal

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Alright here's the APC items I promised last week. Some update info as well on a couple of game entered equipment from Patch 5.5. Others are program updates for the USA, USMC, Canada and Columbia.

1) Iraqi second shipment of the BTR-4 from the Ukraine on the way. As was noted prior to and at submission there were a couple of issues with the BTR-4 that were rectified but, caused the delivery to slip on the first shipment until 4/2011. Game entered for 1/2011again within the six month "swag" so would recommend no action.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2422.html
UPDATE.

2) Iraq again, to update their M113A2s, this should bring them up to the latest USA game version. Work being done by BAE and the USA Anniston Depot. Work to be completed this month.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/febru...q_1002121.html
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...for-iraqi-army
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
ADD.

3) Staying with the above theme, BAE to update Brazil's M113B to the M113A2 MKI standard work has begun, thinking enough will be configured for a 01/2013(?) fielding date. Work to be completed in 11/2013 on all units.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/decem...l_2412111.html
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/30944/
ADD.

4) Russian Army did get the BPM-97 after all. I went ahead and submitted this in my first equipment submission, we had some reservations as we knew that the Russian Border units (And basis for the original submission.) had them along with the Internal Security Forces but, the info was "vague" about the Army. Will recheck original fielding date submitted, but based on this ref. thinking 01/2009.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/bpm-97-apc/
ADD.

5) Columbia looking for an AFV. Italy makes an offer and the STYKER passes field tests, refs 1 & 2 respectively.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=58
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=58
TRACK.

6) Don't think this was addressed, but France gets the BvS10. France took delivery of 53 units at the time of this ref. these are the same as the UK & Dutch units, will recommend fielding of 01/2012. Sweden to also get this, fielding for theirs 06/2013.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...bvs10-vehicles
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...king-from-bae/
VERIFY/ADD IF NEEDED/Sweden ADD.

7) Indonesia orders BMP-3 from Russia. This refs indicates also that the Russian Army stopped ordering them in 2010. Also they've bought more ANOA APCs as well, also a "first entry". I believe the version shown in the 2nd ref is the one being brought.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/febru...3_0102121.html
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
VERIFY/ADD IF NEEDED.

8) Kenya buys APC from Israel.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=55
VERIFY/ADD

9) NEXTAR offers the VBCI for Canadas CCV Program. Testing is on going currently at the Aberdeen Proving grounds in Maryland.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/decem...y_1812114.html
FYI/TRACK CCV Program.

10) Russia to field first BOOMERANG APC's by 2013. Mass deliveries by 2015. Thinking 01/2014 or 06/2014(?).
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rope&Itemid=57
TRACK/ADD.

11) ST Kinetics submits the TERREX 8x8 for the USMC MPC Program. This is among the first "smart" APC's made, you'll find more info as with some already mentioned in the earliest posts made to this thread. This is an updated version to the one first submitted FYI. Of course since it's for the CORPS it's fully amphibious.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/march...m_2503121.html
http://www.military-today.com/apc/terrex_av81.htm
FYI/TRACK MPC Program.

12) The CORPS is showing up the USA between their two programs, will the USA ever get their act together on the GVC? It remains to be seen, thank goodness the BRADLEY is as capable as it is. An update on the GCV Program. Reference 2 offers a couple of other options the USA is looking into.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...e-charm-07048/
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=59
FYI/TRACK GVC Program.

Well I believe that's all of them some again were put off, due to the great inputs by others for 6.0, truely a job well done.

Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Though worked on first, it'll be last, so ends the news blitz as all presented today and tomorrow (?) should close out the items I'll be submitting and tracking for the upcoming 2012/2013 Campaign after a short break for some game time that I haven't had since last fall. Any "Tail End Charlies will be posted up to 1 June. Have a Great Summer!!

1. USA assessing existing systems foe their GCV Program. Evaluations started just over a week ago. The new PUMA I see isn't being evaluated now it was being considered in an earlier maturation of the GCV Program. This is I believe the third restart for the program.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2441.html
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/35775/
http://www.armyrecognition.com/armie...m_2305122.html
FYI AND TRACK.

2. Norway buys more CV9030 MKII APCs.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product264.html
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/34701/
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...ifvs-from-bae/
FYI.

3. UK MOD committed to AFV SV Program.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2436.html
FYI AND PROGRAM TRACK.

4. More on Austria as this has already been posted earlier. The retirement of weapons systems to include armor to be completed by 2014, this date has remained unchanged from when first posted several months ago from different sources. This is more specific regarding other named systems then previous posts were.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...oured-vehicles
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/34696/
MODIFY UNIT END DATES AS ETHIER DEC 2013 OR JUN 2014.

5. More from Canada, this again sounds like the USA GCV Program but, it's their CCV Program. See we're really not so different after all!?!
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...oured-vehicles
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...ccv-programme/
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...anistan-05190/
FYI AND TRACK PROGRAM.

6. Ukraine mounting new ZTM-1 30mm onto it's BTR-3U/BTR-3E. Don't know up front if I'll get to this or not. I'll try to find more info on this weapon.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/33954/
MODIFY UNITS.

7. Argentina wants to purchase Brazil's VBTP-MR (Now add GUARANI.).
The first ref is better detailed info on the unit. Also we have pictures to use now where we didn't when first submitted.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/brazi..._pictures.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2...s_2205121.html
TRACK

8. Indonesia asks "Can I have another sir!" and orders more
BMP-3F's for their Marines.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...donesian-army/
FYI.

9. Columbia is shopping for new armored vehicles (And other equip.) because of their very busy neighbor to the south...Venezuela.
So let's start there first as this is a tale of two countries whose stories are linked together along with Brazil and a couple of others.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2...s_2305121.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2...m_2505121.html
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=58

So Columbia is reacting by...AND REMEMBER IF YOU HAVE TO BE #1, THIS ISN'T A BAD WAY TO START. Reportrd on this a couple of years ago but politics got in the way then concerning MERKAVA.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2...a_2405122.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/april...e_2504121.html
TRACK.

10. Are you ready for a new BOXER? Germany is LANCE.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapo...1805125_2.html
TRACK.

11. Submitted for 5.5 or 6.0 the RTA is more then happy with their Ukrainian purchase. This is representative of reports made at the time from my other sources.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...cha-singa-2012
FYI.

I believe this is it for the APC's. Meant to have had this posted many hours, but a little nasty storm named BERYL radically altered my plans for today. To those in Jacksonville FL. I've seen on here I hope you and yours made it through alright. It'll be our turn overnight with 45-65mph with gusts to +70 winds and inches of much needed rain. Sorry Don it's been decades for an event like this here.

Happy Memorial Day! Don't forget about the one's who served that are no longer with us.

Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Thanks to my little affliction with the "PI" and the summer cold that came with it at the end, a little more in this area as the news never stops. For Don it's good to see your sense of humor is intact, though if it had occurred in the woods the process might've been more fun!?!

1. I found this and the next from an unexpected source, however it shows the importance of diversification in the highly competitive world of defence industry news. Anyway a very good overview of the most current IFV Programs.
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....459519.xml&p=1
FYI.

2. A pretty good article and update on Germanys PUMA IFV, And for Don, there might be info here that might be useful if any modifacation is needed for German UNITS 99 & 100.
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....p28-458567.xml
TRACK/FYI.

3. Iraq buys 500 to be refurbished Army MTLB APCs from Bulgaria. I believe these conform the ones CURRENTLY in the Iraqi OOB.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2473.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_...q_1606124.html
FYI.

4. Norway will RESET all current CV-90s and increase current numbers with new unita as well. This is Norways largest Army Project since the end of the Cold War, and the reporting below shows that.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rope&Itemid=57
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/...f9ced399b5ecfa
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...oured-vehicles
http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_...y_2206123.html
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...-vehicles-bae/
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/36764/
TRACK/ADD.

5. USA GCV Program lacking imagination?
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/36069/
FYI.

6. Swedish CV-9040 to be upgraded with EVO Protection package.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/35969/
http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_...d_0706121.html
http://www.ibd-deisenroth-engineerin...evolution.html
MODIFY/ADD.

7. USA/USMC updating LAV-AT vehicles with TOW ITAS, TI/GSR and turret system. The issue raised here is how current are the U.S. infantry TOW Systems as ITAS has been fielded since 2007? I sense another "rabbit hole" issue again!?! This ref provides further related links at the bottom.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...373/#more-7373
MODIFY/ADD/TRACK/INVESTIGATE ITAS Infantry use.

8. Raytheon displays full LRSS prototype as a further development of the LAV-III to the Canadian Army.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...-canadian-army
http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_...y_0206121.html
TRACK/MODIFY.

9. SCOUT SV (FRES) production has been pushed back to 2018 and won't be fielded until 2020, maybe. There's a reason why the CVT(R) was upgraded (And in the game after Don recovered my fumble on missing it's submission though posted. THANKS AGAIN!). First ref is for background.
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...alist-vehicle/
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...me-say-sources
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rope&Itemid=57
TRACK DATES.

10. JAVELIN sucessfully test fired from an AV.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_...y_1606123.html
FYI/TRACK.

11. The USA says "we have enough" but Congrss has other thoughts on that.
http://www.defensenews.com/article/2...text|FRONTPAGE
FYI.

12. I believe in the 3-4years I've caused Don to lose his hair and more since submitting and modifying equipment issues, the BRADLEY has been there I think at least twice(?) well what's three "between friends". BUSK III is here, for game purposes the turrent enhanced survivbilty portion is at play-maybe. Don your call here.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/36742/
INVESTIGATE TURRET ISSUE/MODIFY.

I think my work is now finished here in the APC area. Don I'll post on the TOW issue elsewhere, I came across the date on ITAS from info I already had on hand.

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

I had little hair left before you came along, all you've done is made what's left simpler to look after.......

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Well it's been over 1/2yr. since I posted anything here but that's when things really went to as noted elsewhere so all I had was a reminder (R1.) note for the APC/IFV world in Patch Thread Post #2 for the 2012/2013 campaign. I promise there will be more next year in this area, Jets/Planes, SPA/SPAA and MRAPS to a lesser degree mostly in the Middle East, Africa and Near Asia. So...

APC Development…

R1. ADD/RUSSIA/JAN 2010/BTR-82/C3 P7 Both/TI/GSR 50 (3Km) Both/Weapons Turreted 14.5mm w/500Rds and coupled coaxial 7.62mm w/2K Rds/6 Smoke Dispensers and EW Both/BTR-82A/Weapons 2A72 30mm cannon w/500Rds and coupled coaxial 7.62mm w/2K Rds//These are Russia's most advanced APCs. It will replace the
BTR-70/80 series APCs. It is supposed to be fully amphibious. The 30mm ammo of the BTR-82A is supposedly a high density ramjet type projectile to allow it to inflict greater damage on targets. I keep coming up with 500 Rds for the 30mm on the NET. Sounds almost like the UK/French case mounted 40mm round of the FRES. Better armor protection then any BTR-80 variant.
Protection to the level of the BTR-90M for armor?
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi...res_video.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi..._pictures.html
http://www.deagel.com/Wheeled-Armore...000348008.aspx
Pic:

Regards,
Pat