So no Dominions 4?

[Leif_-]

theenemy said:
Astrid Lindgren?[SNIP] I don't think so. Illwinter Games are my new heroes!

"Pretender på tacket", "Thing that should not be på luffen", "Mästerdetektiven Cyclops", "Alla vi barn i Tir na n'Og" "Pippi Vampire Queen går ombord"

[Tichy]

JimMorrison said:
but I do like wacky experimental electronica.

Hear hear! I propose that this become a discussion of very good beer, bracing coffee snobbery, and Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece!

All in favor?

[theenemy]

Leif_- said:

"Pretender på tacket", "Thing that should not be på luffen", "Mästerdetektiven Cyclops", "Alla vi barn i Tir na n'Og" "Pippi Vampire Queen går ombord"

Lol Don't forget Mästerdetektiven Priest King Blomkvist or Bröderna Hellbind Heart.

[hoo]

Hail Leif and his economics wisdom. Enjoyed reading his perspective which correctly uses econ models. Maximizing sales kills companies as Leif points out.

I wonder if Shrapnel could bundle some games with Dom 3 to offer a price break but I also guess that so many of their other games are so different there may not be any interest.

Say Dom 3, Scallywag and Falklands war for $100.00? I would guess there would be very few takers but it would be interesting to see how many dom 3 players have bought other Shrapnel titles and if they could be induced to do so? I'd guess the crossover is pretty small with the dom 3 title b/c it's way different from the war sims.

[Gandalf Parker]

I see a common error in some of these posts.

There are game companies who are developers, shelf-ware, and marketing. Then there are game companies who are production for developers, ordering, and publicity. They are two very different business models and you cannot just jump back and forth so dont bother comparing one to the other.

Games which go to a company as an idea, the company helps develop it, they shelf-ware it, they market it with ads are laying out quite abit of money ahead of sales. The developers dont see any profits sometimes for years. Such games tend to have to meet some basic requirements for things like eye-candy and major copy protection and built-in product failure point (I forget the word for it).

Games which are developed by the programmers, then publicized and made available for ordering are available for instant profit sharing with no pay-back timeframe. Personally, the few games Ive loved which shifted from one business-model publisher to the other have let me down. I have no problem with the way Dominions is being marketed (I also do my part to aid in the publiity side). Im not sure if Dom would benefit from switching. Im also very unsure if we the customers would benefit if they shifted.

[Sombre]

The sad thing is I would personally like to see it cheaper and I could convince more people to buy it if it was, but I can't agree at all with the direction of this thread.

When I bought Dom3 it was quite a layout because I lived in China and as such the shipping was very expensive and it was a whole chunk of my income to buy. I very, very nearly didn't because of the cost. I'm glad I did but I didn't get my money's worth out of it for quite a while and it was definitely a risk.

[Tifone]

Sombre said:
The sad thing is I would personally like to see it cheaper and I could convince more people to buy it if it was, but I can't agree at all with the direction of this thread.

Yeah, me too

I don't pretend being an economics expert, or suggest the devs to make the game cheaper or even more expensive... I am sure there are very valid reasons for the pricing choices. Many of you guys talked about them.

For me, having already bought the game, I'd just like to see the game somewhat cheaper, to bring some friends (less likely to take that "leap of faith" someone talked about ) to buy it too to play together. For me, it was worth every single penny anyway.

[Omnirizon]

i like that this thread has shaped into an actual economics argument rather than just a straight out flame war.

says something about the community.

[HoneyBadger]

Yeah, it does show class, even if it lacks the entertainment value of a knife-fight.

[JimMorrison]

hoo said:
I wonder if Shrapnel could bundle some games with Dom 3 to offer a price break but I also guess that so many of their other games are so different there may not be any interest.

Say Dom 3, Scallywag and Falklands war for $100.00? I would guess there would be very few takers but it would be interesting to see how many dom 3 players have bought other Shrapnel titles and if they could be induced to do so? I'd guess the crossover is pretty small with the dom 3 title b/c it's way different from the war sims.

Not sure about the potential with a bundle - I mean, I already bought Dom3, didn't you? But perhaps some sort of a bulk special, where if you order 3 copies of any product at the same time, you get a % discount? This would tempt me a bit, as some of those war sims look kind of entertaining, but haven't tempted me that much yet. Also, it would make the "getting multiple friends playing" situation a little easier.