MP Hot Hot Heat [Game In Progress] - Page 8

Ossa · #1 November 16th, 2012, 08:22 PM

Please find a replacement for me. I'm not going to continue this game and I'm further not going to play in any game where YellowCactus is taking part.

I do not mind being ambushed by a nation I'm NAPed to - that's what machiavellian rules are for (I assume we have them in this game). It sucks if it happens to you, but that's just a part of the game which spices things up.

While preparing my moves to contain the damage I wrote Yellow a message, just to make sure he did this on purpose instead of just having forgotten the NAP - in which case we still could just duke it out or return the our previous borders.

As it happens, he answers that we were not NAPed, shortly followed by a message that he found the message with the accepted NAP and that he was willing to honor it and retreat his troops. I redo my orders, and it turns out he didnt, continueing the attack.

So whats the deal? I'm going to loose, no problem. What I do mind is the way he handled this feigned apology.

Congratulate him for his supert diplo skills, condemn him - I dont care. I'm pissed off and I'm not going to submit any turns for this game anymore.

So please find a replacement. I got con-8, good income, lots of fortresses. I dont think I can fight Mictlan off at this point though, so you can just set the goblins to ai.

ghoul31 · #2 November 16th, 2012, 08:29 PM

what a joke, you attack me 4 on one and you think that's ok.

But someone breaks a NAP with you so you quit the game?

gimme a break

YellowCactus · #3 November 16th, 2012, 08:56 PM

Yea...I'm probably goin to hell for that one.

HoleyDooley · #4 November 16th, 2012, 08:55 PM

lol.................

AreaOfEffect · #5 November 17th, 2012, 12:18 AM

There has been a great deal of flat out lies in this game from my own experience. I started getting messages about unrest in my provinces some time ago. Some people may not know this, but a person attacked by spies gets a very obvious message that spies are at work.

The likely culprits out of my neighbors were Tein Chi and Man. Fortunately for them, the two stats that are best for patrolling are my two weakest stats on all my regular troops. So I went to war with the most likely of the two neighbors, Tein Chi. Tein Chi asked why I went to war and I told them. This is part where the flat out lie comes into play. Tein Chi denied sending spies.

Sure enough, the unrest event stops for a turn. Rather then convince me to stop, I'm even more convinced I'm right and continue to push. Sure enough the unrest continues and I finally catch one of the sneaky bastards. Surprise, Tien Chi was responsible. It also didn't help their case that I got consistent hurricanes on my capitol all of a sudden to compound my unrest problems.

The only part that makes me feel okay about such outright lies was my disbelief in them at the time. Had I for some reason trusted Tein Chi, started a war with Man, and then found out I had been duped into starting a two front war, I might be just as angry as Ossa.

Yellow's way of doing things is rather unsavory. How about this. Instead of quitting the game, how about you and I, along with several of our other players, push out the big bad nation of Mictlan from this game. Honestly, I don't like the way Yellow plays MA Mictlan anyhow, which happens to be one of my favorite nations to play as. Triple-bless has no finesse. Are there any other player's who would like to join this open alliance against Mictlan?

Lumix19 · #6 November 17th, 2012, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect

There has been a great deal of flat out lies in this game from my own experience. I started getting messages about unrest in my provinces some time ago. Some people may not know this, but a person attacked by spies gets a very obvious message that spies are at work.

The likely culprits out of my neighbors were Tein Chi and Man. Fortunately for them, the two stats that are best for patrolling are my two weakest stats on all my regular troops. So I went to war with the most likely of the two neighbors, Tein Chi. Tein Chi asked why I went to war and I told them. This is part where the flat out lie comes into play. Tein Chi denied sending spies.

Sure enough, the unrest event stops for a turn. Rather then convince me to stop, I'm even more convinced I'm right and continue to push. Sure enough the unrest continues and I finally catch one of the sneaky bastards. Surprise, Tien Chi was responsible. It also didn't help their case that I got consistent hurricanes on my capitol all of a sudden to compound my unrest problems.

The only part that makes me feel okay about such outright lies was my disbelief in them at the time. Had I for some reason trusted Tein Chi, started a war with Man, and then found out I had been duped into starting a two front war, I might be just as angry as Ossa.

Yellow's way of doing things is rather unsavory. How about this. Instead of quitting the game, how about you and I, along with several of our other players, push out the big bad nation of Mictlan from this game. Honestly, I don't like the way Yellow plays MA Mictlan anyhow, which happens to be one of my favorite nations to play as. Triple-bless has no finesse. Are there any other player's who would like to join this open alliance against Mictlan?

Indeed, what AoE says is true but I was concerned when he annihilated Ashdod in the first 12 turns (and I had no idea Instill unrest was not anonymous) which (I hope) is not an unfounded fear. I do apologise for my lies, it certainly wasn't honourable conduct but (not to sound unrepentant) all warfare is based on deception and considering your tremendous power it seemed illogical to not seek an advantage over you or escape a war if possible.
"...if slightly inferior in numbers, we can avoid the enemy; if quite unequal in every way, we can flee from him. Hence, though an obstinate fight may be made by a small force, in the end it must be captured by the larger force." - Excerpt from The Art of War by Sun Tzu

AreaOfEffect · #7 November 17th, 2012, 10:09 AM

Giants are easy once you have an answer to them. If you don't have the right tool they seem impossible to beat. I didn't have incredible power, just the right kind of power. You will note that none of the strategies I employed against Ashdod worked against you.

I only attacked Ashdod because A) they can be a quite the force to deal with later on and B) he was extremely close to my capitol. Its actually the closeness of his capitol that gave me the one edge I needed. I could fly troops from my capitol, fresh with slaves, and reach his capitol in the next turn. I could claim this advantage against no other nation.

Lumix19 · #8 November 17th, 2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect

Triple-bless has no finesse. Are there any other player's who would like to join this open alliance against Mictlan?

I actually don't have an issue with Yellow's triple bless. Not to insult you Yellow but I saw a small squad of his Eagle Warriors (blessed) go up against the Vine Army that sprouted in one his provinces. He got trashed and his warriors, despite their triple bless, we're killed. Although I will admit that it was a small army it still seems quite telling. Again no offence Yellow but it seems to me that Eagle Warriors are a bit fragile for such a strategy, Jaguar Warriors are much better of course but their capital only. Also his god and dominion must have suffered quite a bit to get a triple bless so...
But then again I'm not much of an authority on this subject considering I'm quite a distance from the Mictlan/Shinuyama conflict.

YellowCactus · #9 November 17th, 2012, 08:37 AM

Bring it on, Sissies!

AreaOfEffect · #10 November 17th, 2012, 10:14 AM

As a side note, who gets the dagger for defeating Ulm? Is it you Yellow?