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April 6th, 2017, 05:16 AM
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Re: Helo News game related.
My real question is ... what do they plan to do with the CH-53K?
In the Navy/USMC the CH-53 is almost always used as a heavy cargo and mass troop transport not a "combat assault" one ... that's what the MV-22 is for. It rarely sees the front lines, too few of them, too valuable as a cargo lifter.
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April 6th, 2017, 12:08 PM
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Re: Helo News game related.
It sounds like from NAVAIR it's designed also for direct assault operations as well of troops and equipment. From NAVAIR...
"Mission
The CH-53K will transport Marines, heavy equipment and supplies during ship-to-shore movement in support of amphibious assault and subsequent operations ashore."
Not surprising this helo will/does carry an advanced EW system, ground avoidance radar and should game wise, probably have at least a TI/GSR 50. This does also have obvious Special Ops applications as it'll be easily able to carry a couple of their special purpose vehicles and teams with no problems for deep penetration ops.
http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm...1-3DD82B1DDB0F
We're not going to use something because of it's cost, we're not going to see the F-35 just sit on an airfield or carrier. What would be the point of having them then? No piece of modern equipment is "cheap" any longer when a tank can easily run over 10 million dollars a copy for some.
It's the era we live in and for better or worse the one we play in here. I would hope we NEVER exclude a piece of equipment for cost reasons (And I know we won't.) that's for the player to decide on what and how to use their resources. We just make it available and design it to the best of our abilities to make as realistic as the "real world" counter part.
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April 6th, 2017, 02:00 PM
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Re: Helo News game related.
It's not a matter of cost but of numbers available.
Maybe (probably) perspectives have changed.
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April 7th, 2017, 03:03 AM
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Re: Helo News game related.
This will be my last on the CH-53K for awhile but, I wanted to leave you with what's probably the most detailed/updated resource on the topic at hand. It's the first one I used a very long time ago and you'll understand why when you look at it. Simply though, they stay with the topic and keep updating as needed.
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...updated-01724/
I need to hit the rack-take care!
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August 14th, 2017, 03:50 AM
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Re: Helo News game related.
From WillianB's thread " Israeli AH-64's with Spike" further info provided about Columbia's AH-60L IV. This is a very advanced AH with all the "bells and whistles" it is a very capable helo and it goes beyond the "stat" sheet I present below. The first ref. will show what we might've missed for this OOB for this helo and possibly previous marks.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...e-money-03392/
http://defence-blog.com/news/the-col...-arpia-iv.html
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...usiness-office
Thanks "WB", I would've missed this if it wasn't for your Thread.
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August 14th, 2017, 07:19 AM
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Re: Helo News game related.
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
From WillianB's thread " Israeli AH-64's with Spike" further info provided about Columbia's AH-60L IV. This is a very advanced AH with all the "bells and whistles" it is a very capable helo and it goes beyond the "stat" sheet I present below. The first ref. will show what we might've missed for this OOB for this helo
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Pat.....the reason we " missed " this is because we do not have Columbia as a nation in the game.....
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August 14th, 2017, 09:47 AM
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Re: Helo News game related.
All I can say is " Well, well"... huh crap! New Zealand all over again!?! That time it was when I submitted the NH-90 for them in a Patch Post a few years back.
Well two for two, non exist OOB's and both helos, at least I'm consistent!?!
Sorry Don and everyone but at least there were pictures!!
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September 20th, 2017, 09:07 AM
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Re: Helo News game related.
I believe ( it's been a long time....) those were added as available to the Afghans for missions but actually US equipment
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/0...113759934.html
The Afghan air force has received its first Blackhawk helicopters from the US, in the latest step towards modernising its fleet.
Afghanistan still relies heavily on US airpower, but Afghans are beginning to carry out some operations themselves.
T he new hardware arrives today, but it will take months before the aircraft can be used, and years before the air force can operate entirely on its own.
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September 21st, 2017, 06:50 AM
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Re: Helo News game related.
The U.S. Army has retired the OH-58D 'Kiowa Warrior' with the last serviceable aircraft making its final flight at Joint Base Langley-Eustis on Sept. 19.
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/248945...-final-flight#
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September 22nd, 2017, 03:44 AM
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Re: Helo News game related.
Also see Posts #69 - #71/Pgs. 7/8.
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