Nations - MA, CBM 1.6, max lvl 6, NI, Assimilation - Olm/Man and Louist/Ulm win! - Page 8

Louist · #1 August 1st, 2011, 09:01 PM

We certainly seem eager enough not to fight.

Louist · #2 August 1st, 2011, 10:01 PM

I just saw the results of last turn. Ghoul's not out of the fight just yet. He rather neatly decimated my forces :P

Samhain · #3 August 1st, 2011, 10:09 PM

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Just a comment: Could it be, that the three of us are just too reasonable for a War-Game?

You see, I agree with Valerius that there may be more than a grain of truth in that statement. As in Nations, I too often find some justification for a belligerent act in which I clearly lack the strength, skill, or both to succeed. But, I feel absolutely unable to resist based on what is a "justified response to an existential threat" or some other nonsensical claim for precedence based on an amateur understanding of world history. And, with only two notable exceptions in many, and one which involved me playing a giant nation with a good bless, it has not worked out in my favor. Perhaps Dominions3 is not the best model of history, but if reason tends to prevail over belligerence, it can't be all bad.

Anyway, I'm not sure what I am babbling about here, but that was a very dramatic turn.

Valerius · #4 August 2nd, 2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Samhain

You see, I agree with Valerius that there may be more than a grain of truth in that statement. As in Nations, I too often find some justification for a belligerent act in which I clearly lack the strength, skill, or both to succeed. But, I feel absolutely unable to resist based on what is a "justified response to an existential threat" or some other nonsensical claim for precedence based on an amateur understanding of world history. And, with only two notable exceptions in many, and one which involved me playing a giant nation with a good bless, it has not worked out in my favor. Perhaps Dominions3 is not the best model of history, but if reason tends to prevail over belligerence, it can't be all bad.

Anyway, I'm not sure what I am babbling about here, but that was a very dramatic turn.

I think I see what you're saying here. It's seems like you are inclined to role play your nations, rather than a more pragmatic approach to choosing your nation's path. By far, most D3 MP games fall into the pragmatic category. Jotun and Van may be ancient enemies but if an alliance suits the players running those nations then there will likely be one.

Louist · #5 August 1st, 2011, 10:15 PM

Admittedly, I don't have a lot of MP experience, but not even in single player have I lost so many men so quickly.

Valerius · #6 August 2nd, 2011, 02:46 PM

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I think another thing that works against Arco in this game is that he is the only strong astral nation. That makes him scary but it also makes getting access to his mystics probably the best prize in game. I actually had some concern that it was too good a mage to give other nations access to and that may prove to be the case.

Mystics are definitely too valuable a prize. Astral, combined with their fantastic diversity makes Arco far too tasty a target. Priestesses, even with their perfect healing, would be a better choice.

Priestesses were my first choice but then I got worried about, for instance, Jotun getting ahold of them or maybe another astral nation getting access to Arco's risk free mind hunts.

Well, we could always make a house rule that whoever conquers Arco (if anyone does) agrees not to recruit mystics. Or we could just view conquering Arco as being the equivalent of casting Arcane Nexus in a normal game and thus justification for a dogpile.

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I just saw the results of last turn. Ghoul's not out of the fight just yet. He rather neatly decimated my forces :P

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Originally Posted by Louist

Admittedly, I don't have a lot of MP experience, but not even in single player have I lost so many men so quickly.

Told you Arco was scary. And he hasn't even started yet with mind hunts, soul slay, gifts from heaven... Man may come to regret protecting Arco from the dogpile.

Also, I want to clarify something. It isn't necessarily fun to be dogpiled but sometimes that happens and you just make the best of it. Actually, thinking it over, it can be fun to fight a losing battle and make your opponents pay as high a price as possible for taking you down. I had quite a lot of fun in a recent game doing exactly that. Added bonus: the micromanagement goes down as the game goes on!

So nobody is under any obligation to make fights fair or should feel they can't play to their own best interest. There can after all be only one true god.

Valerius · #7 August 2nd, 2011, 03:14 PM

In other news, the Pangaean scouting network reports disturbing signs of a buildup of forces along Man's border with Ulm. Pangaea would look unfavorably on any hostile action Man might take against Ulm.

Olm · #8 August 2nd, 2011, 04:29 PM

Well, that was a great battle in Arcoscephale, this turn. My congratulations to arco for this victory.
@ Pan
We just want to be sure that Ulm does not stomp on the weaker nations. But then those "weaker" nations clearly showed teeth this month and perhaps don't need one to stand up for them at all.
And just as a comment: Ulm did not stand up for you the way you did now, when We announced our short campaign against Pangaea.

Louist · #9 August 2nd, 2011, 04:43 PM

To be fair, Ulm is hardly a forum regular, and that war had already ended before it came to their attention

Olm · #10 August 2nd, 2011, 05:03 PM

To be fair We informed our good neighbors of Ulm of our imminent attack and received good luck wishes.