Question about Ukraine OOB...

[DRG]

My head hurts........

FORTUNATLY they still exist in old OOB's I had saved

BUT

That was not a 30mm gun firing in the second X post

and that link to what it claimed was a BTR https://t.me/btvt2019/6252

This is the translation

Also, several 2S31 “Vena” were at the Kubinka training ground. It is precisely possible that it was his “exhibits” that began to be sent to the troops. There they glowed right next to the Shkvals. I wouldn’t be surprised if time soon comes to even rarer machines, if they can be put into operation.

Does not show the same forward hull in the video as that link they are totally different

This is a BTR-90 There is in an old OOB a BTR-90M-FSV that has a 30mm gun AND a 100mm gun but that was not what was shown firing in that link

https://www.militarytoday.com/apc/btr_90.htm

The few made could certainly have been sent.

[MarkSheppard]

https://twitter.com/AndreiBtvt/statu...57182767169669

An interview in which a soldier claims the new missiles for TOS-2 have a maximum range of 20 km (?) and at 0:14, a nice top shot for icons:

[DRG]

It'll be a few months before the next OOB update which will give more time for research but

https://www.deagel.com/Weapons/M0.1.01.04M/a003355

Shows max range 10km for the M0.1.01.04M2

https://www.armyrecognition.com/ukra...n_ukraine.html

shows

The TOS-2 is able to fire fuel-air explosive rockets also called thermobaric ammunition and can also fire a full range of 220mm unguided rockets. Using thermobaric rockets, the TOS-2 has a firing range from 3.5 to 10 km.

That info differs from the info in Post #90 as this seems to suggest the min range is 3500m as opposed to 1600m

So unless there is a new version nobody knows about except the X poster it has the same range as Russian OOB weapon 150 so I need to do a bit more digging into this to see a new one exists that hasn't been documented yet

Good 3D view here

https://p.turbosquid.com/ts-thumb/E8...os2_prev06.jpg

WIP

[DRG]

Also, both

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=17571fa1b876

and

https://www.armyrecognition.com/ukra...r-50p_apc.html

Report

Seven months ago, the Kremlin began pulling out of long-term storage BTR-50 tracked armored personnel carriers, up-arming them in some cases and sending them toward the front line in Ukraine.

It was a remarkable development. The BTR-50 is old. As its designation implies, it was designed and first fielded in the 1950s.

But after 21 months of hard fighting that has cost the Russian military thousands of fighting vehicles, the Kremlin is desperate for replacement APCs. Seventy-year-old BTR-50s sometimes are the best it can do.

A BTR-50 apparently was among the Russian losses after Ukrainian mines, artillery, drones and anti-tank teams smashed several long columns of armored vehicles attempting to flank Avdiivka from the south and north.

In a heady several days of fighting, the Russians lost scores of vehicles. It seems one BTR-50 rolled over a mine, exploded and flipped upside down. A Ukrainian drone captured the carnage as the bodies of the BTR’s occupants spilled onto the road.

and as a summation ( Forbes )

As a symbol, the attack so far has failed. If the assault stands for anything, it stands for failure. The Kremlin sent troops to die in an obsolete vehicle as part of an ill-prepared force pursuing an objective with little real military value.

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

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Nothing wrong with the BTR-50 as a battle taxi. Heck the AAV-7(1972), LVT-5 (1956), and M3 Halftrack (1941) are still in use. That said sending ANY battle taxi into the front lines is dangerous. They should unload at the closest available covered spot to the front lines and get outta Dodge.

[DRG]

......sometimes the "closest available covered spot " is hard to find or not as covered as was thought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgD4w8y7LVI

[Suhiir]

S--t happens.

If war was safe maybe we could convince the politicians fight them and let the young folk stay home.

[DRG]

Does anyone want to make a guess what this is launching?
Those are very narrow tubes

[Dion]

Could be nets to catch drones. I imagine they would have to be small to be able to unravel correctly, and when fired they would have to be timed for accurate precision since they would be extra susceptible to gravity. Since their probably susceptible to wind effects too, you would have to shoot a bunch of them at the same time to cover a large enough area for them to be effective.

[DRG]

Thinking perhaps some of the pyrotechnics could be reactive armour.....maybe