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[Ts4EVER]

Quite a bit like that. The Soviet ToE in my scenario is based on the recent Osprey Book about the battle and that one claims that while ISU 152s were roughly in that area, none were used by the units engaged. Because of that I went with the SU 76.

[Ts4EVER]

On the other hand, they also misidentified the new IS2 tanks they knocked out as "KVs" at first.

[DRG]

Well that is easily done. The could have assumed it was a new variant of the KV....which it is actually...... and didn't know the new designation. In battle, a KV-85 could be mistaken for an IS-2 and vice-versa

[DRG]

Also FYI anyone building scenario's for the next update I have or have promised scenarios that ( right now....) go to 831 PLUS 13 slots beyond that are currently reserved so any new ones for now need to be numbered starting 845

[wulfir]

Originally Posted by Ts4EVER

Quite a bit like that. The Soviet ToE in my scenario is based on the recent Osprey Book about the battle and that one claims that while ISU 152s were roughly in that area, none were used by the units engaged. Because of that I went with the SU 76.

I don't have the Osprey title, but several other titles on the topic, including Erkki Käkelä's combat history of the Finnish assault gun battalion, from 2005 - some information could be dated.

Käkelä mentions that the Finns knocked out a IS-2 that was wrongly called a "Klim" in the war diary during the battle. He also claims the Finns used the term JS-122 for the IS-2.

Käkelä also claims that the initial contact on the LIIKOLA-KUUTERSELKÄ road was with five T-34/85 that were all knocked out.

Following this Lt Aulanko's platoon is to have been ordered forward by Kvikant, and after he had switched assault guns (his own having a mechanical problem) ran into a ISU-152 that was also knocked out.

Could be cases of mis-identification of course.

As for the defence of KUUTERSELKÄ Käkelä gives:
- bulk of the Soviet 72. Rifle Division
- 185. Tank Regiment
- 351. Assault Gun Regiment
- 46. Anti-tank Brigade
- 119. Seperate Anti-Tank Section (in Finnish terminology a section in the artillery branch is a battalion size formation)

He does not go into what state the Soviet units where, they were not very shy about using heavily worn/understrength formations...

[DRG]

Originally Posted by DRG

Also FYI anyone building scenario's for the next update I have or have promised scenarios that ( right now....) go to 831 PLUS 13 slots beyond that are currently reserved so any new ones for now need to be numbered starting 845

EDIT CORRECTION !

847 is now the next free slot

[Ts4EVER]

According to the Osprey book:

Soviet intelligence had received information that the Finns were going to use the Armoured Division for the counter-attack. The Soviets prepared themselves by collecting one T‑34‑85 company from the 98th Separate Tank Regiment, a company of five IS-2 tanks from the 27th Guards Separate Heavy Tank Regiment and the 31st Guards Separate Heavy Breakthrough Tank Regiment to reinforce the 185th Separate Tank Regiment and the 1222nd SPG Regiment.

The two rifle divisions in the centre and on the right flank were supported by an armoured force consisting of the 185th Separate Tank Regiment, 98th Separate Tank Regiment and the 1222nd Self-propelled Gun (SPG) Regiment. The 185th Separate Tank Regiment had about 17 operational T‑34s from a starting strength of 21 tanks. The 1222nd SPG Regiment had 17 of its original 21 SU‑76M self-propelled guns.

[DRG]

For anyone nervous about running out of scenario slots....



......you can stop worrying.

[zovs66]

And there was very much rejoicing, at least in my camp!!!

[wulfir]

2999, hehe...