Merkava. - Page 9

kevineduguay1 · #81 September 16th, 2010, 04:12 PM

gila,

It can be classed as a Gun APC (Tracked) Class # 127. I think DRG tested this with the AI and had no real problems.

DRG · #82 September 16th, 2010, 07:39 PM

The AI will use a gun APC much like it does a tank.

Don

kevineduguay1 · #83 September 17th, 2010, 11:56 AM

The extra 8 rounds on the MkI and MkII are stowed in front of the engine fire wall between it and the turret basket. They are in 4, 2 round containers. This is why the tank can carry 14 rounds with only 6 in the ready possition on the floor of the basket.Info from DADI on Tanknet. Also gave some other load info for other weapons. Please look at the relevant posts on that site.

I may get access to a book written by a Tanknet member (Marsh) on the Merkava. Maybe this will clear away more of the fog.

Mobhack · #84 September 17th, 2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kevineduguay1

The extra 8 rounds on the MkI and MkII are stowed in front of the engine fire wall between it and the turret basket. They are in 4, 2 round containers. This is why the tank can carry 14 rounds with only 6 in the ready possition on the floor of the basket.Info from DADI on Tanknet. Also gave some other load info for other weapons. Please look at the relevant posts on that site.

I may get access to a book written by a Tanknet member (Marsh) on the Merkava. Maybe this will clear away more of the fog.

I am quite capable of reading tanknet, since I pointed you that way in the first place.

The thing will be modelled in the way we decide. No further discussion required.

Andy

kevineduguay1 · #85 September 17th, 2010, 01:03 PM

Andy,

I never should have brought it up and I won't again HERE. F-OFF you close minded puke!

So long guys. Just trying to help.

RERomine · #86 September 17th, 2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kevineduguay1

Andy,

I never should have brought it up and I won't again HERE. F-OFF you close minded puke!

So long guys. Just trying to help.

Kevin, that isn't called for. What you did was brought up a suggestion and it was politely turned down. You kept pushing for what you wanted and seem surprised people are getting irritated you won't let it go. I mentioned what you needed to do to get your argument heard, prove it to be doctrine. Instead, you kept on focusing on what can be instead of what it really is and how it is used. You got your answer long before today. Time to move on and accept if for what it is.

Imp · #87 September 17th, 2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kevineduguay1

Andy,

I never should have brought it up and I won't again HERE. F-OFF you close minded puke!

So long guys. Just trying to help.

We got there weeks ago thanks.

Spinflight · #88 January 1st, 2011, 04:24 PM

Whilst it is true that the Merkava has an interesting niche capability it probably isn't as unique as you'd think.

It is one thing to cram troops in the back but I can assure you that without restraints and well designed seating going cross country at speed in a heavy armoured vehicle is simply downright dangerous. It certainly feels rather dangerous even with the above!

As for the numbers I've heard stories of 27 troops with bergans in the back of a Warrior, its strange what the prospect of a 20 mile tab makes possible. It isn't just a question of the number of seats either. Storage space on AFVs is very tight and unless even moderately heavy equipment is restrained you are asking for someone to get brained. Often the restraints and seating are needed for extra bits of kit and there is a huge difference between the kit needed for a quick jolly and a deployment where you are effectively living out of the vehicle. Rifle racks and the suchlike are not just to keep things tidy.

You could probably make a case for almost any modern MBT carrying a couple of dudes, possibly not even at the expense of some ammo. If you were going to model it however you'd probably have to think about them being unconscious or having broken limbs if the vehicle went above 30 mph for any period of time.

Imp · #89 January 2nd, 2011, 06:12 PM

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its strange what the prospect of a 20 mile tab makes possible

Lol

Reminds me years back on a practice exercise a mate of mine managed to organise a sneak in & disableing a load of their transport. They were not happy about it gave him a good beating after but serious respect for pulling it off.