MP Morla MA noob game (running) - Page 9

Anaconda · #81 October 9th, 2011, 11:57 AM

I am gonna get my turn in just before the host so dont worry, I aint gonna stall.

Immaculate · #82 October 9th, 2011, 03:13 PM

Any chance that a player with a bit more experience can do a run down of statistics analysis again?

All i can tell is that Ulm, Ermor and Man are doing REALLY well and that Tien'chi and Jotunheim aren't far behind (basing this on forts, provinces, incomes). And that Machaka, Marrignon, and myself are bringing up the rear.

Also, i think someone took a bite out of Tien'chi?

triqui · #83 October 10th, 2011, 06:42 AM

My vision (although I'm not as experienced as others)

Province and income-wise, Ermor, Ulm and Man are leading. They all are quite above the average, with 28, 22 and 18 provinces, which is quite a lot. Machaka and Tien'Chi are the bottom half, with 8 and 9 provinces. Income Wise, Marignon is poorer than any other, with 686, seconded by Machaka. The richest countries are Man and Ermor, which is not surprising since they are the larger ones too. Ermor scales prevent them to be the richest, despise being larger than Man.

In castles, Tien Chi, Man and Ulm are leading with 3. Tien Chi seem to be turtling up. They have 3 castles, a small country, number 1 research, and larger army. They might not be impressive right now, but probably will be a major player later, if they survive the initial preassure.

Machaka dominion is very low. They either have a small dominion value, had lost the prophet, are being attacked by a god or prophet, or a combination of those. Jotunheim has the strongest dominion. His SC god is awake now, which means he probably have dom 9 or 10 for awe, and he is spreading dom himself as well.

Army size, the winner is Tien Chi. They are probably massing Archers for later Wind-guided flaming-arrow massacres. The smallest armies are Pythium and Marignon. However, army size is such a bad statistic to look at... 10 hydras can beat easily 10000 militia, and the graph does not show that.

Judging by the charts, it seems Tien Chi got bited, and so did Pythium imho. (pythium lost gem income this turn, both of them lost provinces) Machaka seem to be the one that bite Pythium, and Marignon the one that clashed with the Celestial Buroucracy.

Man and Ulm are powers right now, with huge size, income, castles and research. Ermor is a major power too, but lags in research. Tien Chi is the inverse of Ermor: it looks tiny, but the Research is powerful and their mages are diverse.

SpaceViking21 · #84 October 10th, 2011, 10:29 AM

Some bad news. My boss just popped up with an out-of-town job for me that will keep me away from my computer (and thus, dominions) for two weeks. I'll be making a thread to get a temp sub for the mean time.

Olm · #85 October 10th, 2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TimpaMan

Dammit!

First contact with the nation of MAN, and they send me a messenger saying they will kill and conquer my nation, best to surrender! HOW RUDE!!! I guess i have to put up a fight... though i was hoping for a pieceful sandbox game building my castles...

Yes, I know it was rude, and I halfway regret.
Had better used Y'Gologna to take water provinces.

triqui · #86 October 11th, 2011, 11:18 AM

We, the people of Ermor, announce we have been attacked by Jotunheim, due to a frontier dispute.

We are also willing to say that the traitorous T'ien Ch'i, who made a deal with us and got 400 gold for it, is going to break that deal and attack us together with the filthy big-people. The Celestial Buroucracy is honorless and deserve no respect, so we are willing to pay, bribe, help and support any nation who is able to make them and their 15 feet tall furry allies suffer in pain and agony.

Immaculate · #87 October 11th, 2011, 11:20 AM

I'm surprised at you- i've seen your elite blessed units in action against vampires and Independents (yes- i had spies there) and they seemed kick ***.

triqui · #88 October 11th, 2011, 11:45 AM

They do, they are quite good. That does not mean I'm not willing to pay, bribe or help anyone willing to fight against Jotun and Tien Chi, those are completelly unrelated facts :P

SpaceViking21 · #89 October 11th, 2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Immaculate

I'm surprised at you- i've seen your elite blessed units in action against vampires and Independents (yes- i had spies there) and they seemed kick ***.

They don't like being turned to dust or showers of arrows very much. Figured out that one myself.

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Originally Posted by triqui

15 feet tall furry allies

We prefer "Hairy", thank you very much.

Oh, and now may as well be the time to talk about the implications of such a strong bless on capital-only units. I came to the conclusion that Ermor would need to eat its nearest neighbors very quickly in order to stay afloat in the rankings. Naturally, I want to avoid that, so I attacked him before he could attack me. Builds with that bad of scales generally never want to be sitting back and not warring, you either win big and fast, or collapse under your own weight.

triqui · #90 October 11th, 2011, 12:41 PM

Well, that's a good reasoning, but it's completelly wrong in this case.

As you could have noticed from my income, my economic scales aren't that bad. I have sloth 1, death 1 and cold 1 (which should had been heat, as there was a Jotun and no Abysia). That's all. The rest of the points came from Drain 2 instead of Magic 1. That gives me a small handicap in research. However, I went straight into construction 4. I was going to build 10 skull mentors this turn, and I could even build 4 more if I wanted to. That would had made for the gap, and I could had built a nice midgame strat, with a very decent income (28 provinces and only slightly worse than average scales), and a decent research (Edit: with 10 skull mentors, I'll probably be the fastest researcher next turn)

If I would had wanted to jump early against a country, I would had done with Tien Chi when he was battling Marignon. That would had made him an easy target. Although I respect Shaetner ability a lot, facing 2 differnet countries, one of them triple blessed, with a country with 9 provinces and 700 income is simply impossible. I was not thinking about early aggression, was planning more midgame.

My mistake was not building solid NAPS, with at least one of my neighbours. Assuming those NAPS would had been respected, I would be facing an easier midgame and my plan would be working better. However, it didn't work, so I will have to change my way to fight and face both of you, struggling to survive. That's life.