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January 18th, 2024, 12:01 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
Looks like Blaster shots from Star Wars. They must be using some type of new, high velocity, rapid firing munitions.
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January 18th, 2024, 06:58 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
Another crazy one off to make Don and Andy's head hurt.
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/...06706152071223
Ukrainian BMP hull with a Russian BMD-2 turret. I guess pieced together from salvage -- take 4 wrecked vehicles to get one working vehicle.
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January 19th, 2024, 05:15 AM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
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Interestingly they are still in the desert tan paint....maybe a little more "used" looking now

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January 19th, 2024, 11:02 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
I think AFU has two bradley colors now:
1.) Initial Bradleys delivered in teh initial tranche; these were repainted in AFU Green.
2.) Replacement bradleys delivered to replace losses -- about 15 were delivered -- the famous T-90 killer is one of these and seems to be desert tan base color -- no time to repaint, replace losses RFN.
It seems like AFU mix-match external armor as needed ; the Bradley T-90 killer is mostly desert tan, but has green ERA blocks; while I've seen AFU green bradleys with desert ERA blocks.
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January 20th, 2024, 07:51 AM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard
I think AFU has two bradley colors now:
1.) Initial Bradleys delivered in teh initial tranche; these were repainted in AFU Green.
2.) Replacement bradleys delivered to replace losses -- about 15 were delivered -- the famous T-90 killer is one of these and seems to be desert tan base color -- no time to repaint, replace losses RFN.
It seems like AFU mix-match external armor as needed ; the Bradley T-90 killer is mostly desert tan, but has green ERA blocks; while I've seen AFU green bradleys with desert ERA blocks.
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So basically... "Anything goes"
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January 18th, 2024, 06:56 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
HAWK comes out of the shadows and is seen for the first time in Ukraine in clear photos.
https://twitter.com/markito0171/stat...06809770213544
Noteworthy: Missiles still have US ARMY painted on them, and the date of mfg of that missile is July 1981.
Another photo shows that Army/USMC missiles are mixed together

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January 20th, 2024, 11:55 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
During Desert Shield/Storm I only had one desert uniform, my other (and a 2nd spare in my "in the rear gear") was standard forest cammo.
Most of the equipment was green when it arrived in theater but was repainted to desert.
Now that we're more-or-less done in Iraq/Afghanistan I expect everything to be repainted green over the next few years.
But certain items (i.e. ERA blocks) will be used "as is" till the stocks are gone.
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January 23rd, 2024, 09:21 PM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
Ah, so they have reinvented the Matilda Hedgehog, then? 
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January 24th, 2024, 08:25 AM
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Re: Question about Ukraine OOB...
Yep and both sides are improvising like that
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