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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
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I read some interesting stuff onetime on this. It wasn't "canon" information but it sounded plausible. Some of it was from the Trek books that come out every month. They produce like 3 or four books every month by different authors. Some are good, some not so good. A lot of Trekkies don't even acknowledge them, but they can be a good source of "semi-canon" information.
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Yeah, I'm one of those Trekkies who hardly ever read a Star Trek novel, until it's from Peter David or someone of that caliber. I really like the ghost-written Shatner books. They don't coordinate anything between any of the authors, and if you could track down all of the stardates, I wouldn't be surprised if 2 different novels were using the same stardates in different parts of the galaxy. That's why I like reading the Star Wars books. Not only do they get their blessing from George Lucas, but they even include all of the (Dark Horse) comics in their overall story line. Now, I must admit that I'm not particularly happy with the current storyline with the Vong, but I'll read a Star Wars book over a Star Trek book anytime. Besides, George Lucas has said that anything written is canon, unless he specifically changes it in a movie. Paramount says that unless you see it in a movie or an episode, it's not canon. Which one would you prefer?
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September 11th, 2002, 03:36 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
I remember having this very same discussion over two years ago on a long since dead Star Trek fan site. How did the Federation arm so quickly after the loss at Wolf 359 to the 600 plus ships of each fleet in the Dominion War?
The official Star Trek answer is refurbished mothballed ships, rapid development and construction of new ships, and purchasing of ships built by other parties to Federation standards.
Until the Borg attack the Federation was a research and exploration focused society with few ships for fighting. They had in fact had an on going conflict with the Cardassians as described in the 4th season episode called "The Wounded" where we were introduced to both the Cardassians and the Nebula class star ship.
Following the Borg attack the Federation began a crash course in ship design and construction, and from that the Akira, Sovereign, steamrunner, intrepid, and defiant class ships were born.
Think of it as well, like the beginnings of a SEIV game. At first you’re dedicated to exploration, until you meet a hostile enemy, then you begin researching new weapons, and ship designs. You then begin a rapid production of these ships in anticipation of war.
That is essentially what happened in the Trek universe.
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September 26th, 2002, 02:04 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
Massive bump. But for a good reason. The new trailer for Nemesis is out. It looks even better in this. Although what it looks like it they might trash the Enterprise. Which sucks. But none the less it looks like a awesome movie. Go HERE! {Link}
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September 26th, 2002, 06:01 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
I just saw the preview for the season premier of Enterprise next week, and I'll be damned if I didn't just see a Romulan ship. 
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
Yep. And it comes with a time bomb too.
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September 27th, 2002, 07:14 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
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Yep. And it comes with a time bomb too.
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Wow, you guys were right (I didn't doubt you one bit FYI) but I just saw it myself. Nice bomb and a Romulan ship at the same time. Should be an intersting show.
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September 28th, 2002, 01:01 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
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I just saw the preview for the season premier of Enterprise next week, and I'll be damned if I didn't just see a Romulan ship.
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Hmmm, that is next weeks episode, but it's not the season premiere. The season premire was Last week. It was a continuation of the cliffhanger episode from the end of Last season. And then we had another new episode this week. The Romulan show next week by my count is episode 3 for season two.
Of course as always, local listings may vary.
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
I couldn't believe it either when at the end of the trailer for next week's episode the Last word spoken said "Romulan". It's also interesting to note that at the season premiere, Archer found a book about the Romulan Star Empire and the future guy (forgot his name) told him not to read it. I'm really surprised that they're bringing the Romulans in this early. I would have imagined a 3rd of 4th season appearance. to me, this seems too soon. But, hey, I'm not running the show.
Speaking of this week's episode, I liked it. It was interesting to see how 3 stranded Vulcans could exist in the 1950's (wasn't Sputnik launched in 1959?). I would love for them to do a follow-up on the Vulcan who wanted to stay, especially if he ever ran into Gary Seven. And what really surprised me about the episode is that in the history of some 500+ episodes, they did not show the entire case. Only 3 cast members were shown. That's something that I liked in B5. If the storyline didn't include a character, he or she wasn't shown. I wish they'd do that more often.
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September 28th, 2002, 05:24 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek Nemesis
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Well... I don't pay too much attention to Enterprise.
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Neither do I. I've seen a grand total of 4 episodes I believe. After Voyager I just couldn't get into Enterprise. To whole back in time didn't catch my eye though. It's interesting but I doubt I'll get into the series that much. Hopefully after Enterprise (I'm guessing 7 years as usual) they come out with a good creative show that I will watch. But right now I'm just anxious to see the movie come out.
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I think...therefore I am confused.
They were armed. With guns, said Omari.
Canadians. With guns. And a warship. What is this world coming to?
The dreaded derelict dwelling two ton devil bunny!
Every ship can be a minesweeper... Once
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