Adamant Mod Discussion Thread - Page 98

CovertJaguar · #**971** November 30th, 2004, 04:46 AM

Remote miners count as cargo. Why is that? They are not related to cargo or supplies, infact they are closer related to the research teams as resource producers.

Aiken · #**972** November 30th, 2004, 05:12 AM

To allow remote mining with transport hulls early in the game, I think. It's the only logic I can see here.

Fyron · #**973** November 30th, 2004, 12:33 PM

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CovertJaguar said:
Remote miners count as cargo. Why is that? They are not related to cargo or supplies, infact they are closer related to the research teams as resource producers.

Sure they do. They have to have massive cargo storage areas to store all of those resources mined...

Research teams, not so much. Also, to allow them to be used on ships earlier in the game, as Aiken mentioned...

CovertJaguar · #**974** November 30th, 2004, 07:30 PM

lol,

you have a point there.

CovertJaguar · #**975** November 30th, 2004, 11:52 PM

I have numbers this time. A 10 research team corvette (310kt) costs 3035, 5790, 3675 to build. It costs 103, 196, 124 to maintain. A 7 research team small transport (300kt) costs 3425, 4150, 3825 to build, but it only costs 23, 37, 24 to maintain. I can maintain at least 28 research labs using transports for a similar cost of maintaining 10 research labs with a combat hull. This is why I use transport hulls for research vessels.

CovertJaguar · #**976** December 5th, 2004, 08:21 AM

I have another suggestion for the nomads. They have no real access to training facilities. Would it be possible to get space-based training facilities to put in starbases.

P.S. I'm still working on the pics if you were wondeing. I am working on a memphit model and it is taking a while.

XenoTheMorph · #**977** December 5th, 2004, 10:17 AM

Lovely Jubly! New piccys

Your & Fyrons 'upgrade' to the Magic Paradigm is much looked forward to!

Aiken · #**978** December 5th, 2004, 10:19 AM

Both pirates and nomads need some serious support in intel area. Intel points from bridges are not enough to resist severe intel attack.

Atrocities · #**979** December 5th, 2004, 10:53 AM

A counter intel facility.

Fyron · #**980** December 5th, 2004, 03:54 PM

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CovertJaguar said:
I have numbers this time. A 10 research team corvette (310kt) costs 3035, 5790, 3675 to build. It costs 103, 196, 124 to maintain. A 7 research team small transport (300kt) costs 3425, 4150, 3825 to build, but it only costs 23, 37, 24 to maintain. I can maintain at least 28 research labs using transports for a similar cost of maintaining 10 research labs with a combat hull. This is why I use transport hulls for research vessels.

Note that I have fixed a number of issues regarding hull sizes and maintenance values for 0.16.00...

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aiken said:
Both pirates and nomads need some serious support in intel area. Intel points from bridges are not enough to resist severe intel attack.

Nomads have intelligence components that can be placed on ships and bases. Perhaps 10x counter intel projects for the pirates or something...

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Atrocities said:
A counter intel facility.

There is no such thing. The Fate Shrine ability is largely useless. If it succeeds, all it does is shift the project to a target in a different system of your empire. If you only have a single planet in your empire, it effectively does nothing at all against planet-based projects...