Proportions any good for single player?

Devin D.Bass · #1 March 25th, 2003, 09:58 PM

Hello to all Proportion players,
I was wondering how was proportions was at single player? I know that by design the game is for PBM but I am not really a PBM player and really enjoy playing on my own. And Proportions seems like a great mod and I would like to play but if the AI doesn't provide a good challenge then I guess I won't. Can anyone elaborate on the AI?

Aloofi · #2 March 25th, 2003, 10:13 PM

I only play single player, and i only play Proportions....

Play with AI hard and low bonus. Then upgrade to medium bonus for the second game.
Small quadrant also helps the AI.

I'm thinking about re-starting with an small quadrant, no neutrals, AI hard, AI medium bonus, and 4 AI races
1-Drushocka
2-Krill
3-Jraenar
4-Xiati

I've heard the XiChung is the most agressive AI, but I don't like their shipset. The Amonkrie is also good, but I want to play with only 4 AI races so I don't have to scroll in the diplomacy screen.

oleg · #3 March 25th, 2003, 10:27 PM

Me too ! Proportions from Gold CD is not refined, you need the latest Version (2.5.3) from PvK' page. The latest SE patch (1.84) is also required. You may also want some latest Proportions AI, I uploaded them in race dowload forum. Use AI bonuses and good luck !

Fyron · #4 March 25th, 2003, 11:43 PM

I think Proportions is for SP, not MP. It takes too long to work well with PBW, unless you have just a small group of players that can play many turns at a time. The pace of Proportions is too slow for general PBW use.

gregebowman · #5 March 25th, 2003, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aloofi:
I only play single player, and i only play Proportions....

Play with AI hard and low bonus. Then upgrade to medium bonus for the second game.
Small quadrant also helps the AI.

I'm thinking about re-starting with an small quadrant, no neutrals, AI hard, AI medium bonus, and 4 AI races
1-Drushocka
2-Krill
3-Jraenar
4-Xiati

I've heard the XiChung is the most agressive AI, but I don't like their shipset. The Amonkrie is also good, but I want to play with only 4 AI races so I don't have to scroll in the diplomacy screen.

How do you pick a specific number of AI enemies? I know you can put low, but how do you get 4, or 5 or whatever number you want?

JLS · #6 March 26th, 2003, 12:01 AM

Absolutely YES, Proportions may be the Best MOD in respectes to being user friendly; and I think you will find it very realistic as well.

In respects to multiplayer, we think Proportions plays very well, do to the fact you start with a Large Empire Storage, nice well balanced starting research and Resource production from the Home World; that is a much Larger starting income then most Mods and Base Space Empires.

John

[ March 25, 2003, 22:14: Message edited by: JLS ]

Fyron · #7 March 26th, 2003, 12:08 AM

Yes, but Proportions games take 100s and 100s of turns to play out. This is too many for general PBW use. It is fine with a small group of dedicated players, but takes too long when you just have a group of random players.

JLS · #8 March 26th, 2003, 12:10 AM

It plays great in LAN Play, with 3-4 human Players!

[ March 25, 2003, 22:10: Message edited by: JLS ]

PvK · #9 March 26th, 2003, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gregebowman:
How do you pick a specific number of AI enemies? I know you can put low, but how do you get 4, or 5 or whatever number you want?

Select zero generated AI enemies. Then add the ones you want as players, and specify computer control for them.

PvK

PvK · #10 March 26th, 2003, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Yes, but Proportions games take 100s and 100s of turns to play out. This is too many for general PBW use. It is fine with a small group of dedicated players, but takes too long when you just have a group of random players.

That depends on how you set up the game, and what kind of a game you want.

If you expect to start with a single low-tech planet, and populate the entire quadrant and reserarch everything in the tech tree until it's no longer fun to play without wiping out everyone else, like in the unmodded game, then yeah that would be hard to do in the time span of a typical unmodded game. Of course.

If you want to have an intense war in a couple-hundred turns, use a small quadrant (or an edited maps where the homeworlds start out within a system or two of each other), and/or use multiple homeworlds per player.

Or, turn blitz/autorun for the first 150+ turns, then let the game start.

Etc.

PvK