immortality

tinkthank · #1 February 9th, 2004, 09:27 AM

Does the rebirth of an immortal person when it dies within dominion always take the same amount of time or is it dependent on certain factors? I have tried experimenting but cant figure it out. I am sure I had some fey boars killed in my own +1 dominion, and they didnt come back within 3 turns, which I thought was the limit. Or are normal units different than pretenders?

Saber Cherry · #2 February 9th, 2004, 09:41 AM

They come back the next turn (or sometimes the same turn), but always reappear in the capitol.

Norfleet · #3 February 9th, 2004, 09:51 AM

The killed units will respawn in your capitol.

However, if it was +1 Dominion, that's very risky: Since Dominion shifts occur in the phase AFTER most of the dying occurs, if the Dominion was 0 before you went in there, and died, you are still dead.

However, on the flipside, if you went in while Dominion was positive, and it dropped to zero or went negative, you respawn because the shift occurs after you die.

tinkthank · #4 February 9th, 2004, 12:32 PM

They died on turn 3 in a neighboring province of my capitol which had, at that time, +1 dominion (the neighboring province did, the capitol had +3), and has never decreased. The units did not come back on the next turn or any thereafter, either in the capitol or in the province in which they died.

Raz 24 · #5 February 10th, 2004, 04:09 PM

I have complained on this to , the fay boars are faking theyre mortality...

DLC · #6 February 11th, 2004, 01:21 PM

same with vampires sometimes

Graeme Dice · #7 February 11th, 2004, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by DLC:
same with vampires sometimes

Did they die, or did the rout to nearby provinces. Immortal commanders never rout in friendly dominion. Immortal troops do.

tinkthank · #8 February 23rd, 2004, 04:43 PM

Did some more testing, but still cant figure it out.

The heroes of Spring and Autumn are immortal, and so I tested these out by sending them out to die in friendly dominions by having them attack indy provinces in friendly dominion barefisted.

In 14 situations where the targeted Indy province had a friendly dominion of 1 when I sent the Immortal in and a friendly dominion of 1 in the turn after which combat was resolved (in which he predictably "died" each time), he only returned once. No routing, no hiding, just death.

Can any dev maybe check this?

Kristoffer O · #9 February 23rd, 2004, 04:51 PM

Immortals are not supposed to retreat under normal circumstances, but it can happen. If your immortals attacked an independent province (with your dominion) surrounded by independent (or enemy) provinces and retreated in the battle he will die the gruesome death. He has no place to retreat and is sort of left in the void.

Can this be the case?

tinkthank · #10 February 23rd, 2004, 05:07 PM

Thank you for answering so promptly!

But: He had a friendly neighboring province into which he could have retreated had he wanted to. But apparently, he didnt retreat, he got killed (according to the battle replay anyhow).