.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old October 18th, 2006, 10:05 PM

bleach168 bleach168 is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
bleach168 is on a distinguished road
Default High PD kinda useless.

I'm playing Pythium and I have lots of money so I invest in PD usually up to 50-60 in provinces bordering my enemies.

Often, the enemy (in my case Machaka and Jotun) will send in a small force but have them flanking my rear. My PD should easily be able to handle the attack however my commanders often get killed usually by running towards the flanking units and fatally attacking them.

I suppose I could add extra commanders and have them guarded by extra troops but I feel this defeats the purpose of no upkeep PD.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old October 18th, 2006, 10:18 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

Not really. I tend to utilize the local units to pad my PD. For many that means a leader with archers set at a flank. For others that means a leader with cavalry set at a flank. Actually just a commander, with better orders, can help
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old October 18th, 2006, 10:22 PM

bleach168 bleach168 is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
bleach168 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

Thanks for the reply. I guess I'm just frustrated that PD alone isn't enough and that you need to add extra commanders to have an effective defense.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old October 18th, 2006, 10:34 PM
Foodstamp's Avatar
Foodstamp Foodstamp is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee USA
Posts: 2,059
Thanks: 229
Thanked 106 Times in 71 Posts
Foodstamp is on a distinguished road
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

Some nations seem to get better returns for PD as well. I noticed that EA Arco PD is VERY effective.
__________________
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH NEXT TURN.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old October 18th, 2006, 10:35 PM
Caduceus's Avatar

Caduceus Caduceus is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Union, SC
Posts: 1,166
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Caduceus is on a distinguished road
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

I don't have much experience, but I have had good experience with the Arco PD.
__________________
Caduceus
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old October 18th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Ballbarian's Avatar

Ballbarian Ballbarian is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kansas, USA
Posts: 1,538
Thanks: 289
Thanked 194 Times in 94 Posts
Ballbarian will become famous soon enough
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

In Dom2, I set just about every province to 11 defense. In Dom3 I have found 21 to be reasonable. Like Gandalf, I too compliment trouble spots with a local commander or two. In strategic choke points (if the gold is available) I crank it up to 30+, but that is rare and usually pretty late in the game.
__________________
RanDom v2 - Map gen & Semirandomizer.
Province Editor - Custom province creation made easier.
God Editor - Custom pretender creation made easier.
Map Forge - Map editor
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old October 18th, 2006, 10:45 PM

Stryke11 Stryke11 is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bay Area, CA. USA
Posts: 220
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Stryke11 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

High PD for MA Ulm has never let me down. Although in my current Pythium game Mictlan of all nations routinely rolls my PD of 60+ and Oceania too. Makes me wonder if the money spent is worth it. I think out of maybe 15 attacks per turn to provinces undefended except for PD around 60, 2-3 are successful.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old October 18th, 2006, 10:55 PM
KissBlade's Avatar

KissBlade KissBlade is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,055
Thanks: 4
Thanked 29 Times in 13 Posts
KissBlade is on a distinguished road
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

you should only build pd's at choke points and even then it's best to pad it up with one or two battle mages. I use pd often as chaff and anti call of the wind forces, nothing more.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old October 18th, 2006, 11:02 PM
Graeme Dice's Avatar

Graeme Dice Graeme Dice is offline
General
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,013
Thanks: 17
Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts
Graeme Dice is on a distinguished road
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

[quote]
bleach168 said:
I'm playing Pythium and I have lots of money so I invest in PD usually up to 50-60 in provinces bordering my enemies.[/qutoe]

Are you aware that that much province defense is costing you 1830 gold? You could have bought 183 troops for that cost.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old October 18th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: High PD kinda useless.

Jotunheim gets a great return from PD. Since they are so expensive to maintain as an army. And a 6 in PD for them is equal to 11 for other nations

And no matter how you are swayed by this discussion ALWAYS put at least 1 into PD. If you dont then when it gets taken you wont know if it was an army or a scout because you will get no battle report on it.
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.